.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

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Do you think you'd be able to tell the difference in a heart hit with a 77 grain 223 TMK and a 130 grain 6.5 TMK at the same velocity?
Would be interesting to see wouldn't it. Side by side gel tests of 69tmk, 77tmk, 130tmk, 168tmk, 195tmk. Maybe a test of each at various impact velocities, scale up from 1500fps to 3000fps or something like that.
 
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just looking for a tikka 223?
Speaking of alternatives to the tikka 223... has anyone tried or had success with one of the kel tec bulpups? Like the rdb survival? 1/7 twist... wonder how a heavier bullet might do. Super compact package if it was accurate enough. Wonder how quiet it would be suppressed with the action so close to your face though...
 

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Keep in mind that Form also recommends the 75 gr ELDM as a good killer.

That‘s the bullet my stainless T3 Varmint likes.

I think it’s widely available.




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Are you using the 75 ELDM in a .223? If so do they fit in the standard Tikka Magazine?
 
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Yeah, I never realized what I had until just an hour ago... when pnwgator taught me that I should be out there training my kids to be riflemen... mind blown! 🤣
There is a difference in teaching them to be a a rifleman vs a trigger presser.

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That would be pointless, none will be deaderer than any of the others
I will politely disagree. I think it would sober up some of the naysayers. My data points are substantially fewer than many folks here, but I can't tell the difference in a deer heart hit by a 115 grain 257 Partition and one hit by a 60 grain 223 Partition. Both are likely to turn the heart to mush and pass all the way through on a broadside shot on a 120 pound doe.
 
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I will politely disagree. I think it would sober up some of the naysayers. My data points are substantially fewer than many folks here, but I can't tell the difference in a deer heart hit by a 115 grain 257 Partition and one hit by a 60 grain 223 Partition. Both are likely to turn the heart to mush and pass all the way through on a broadside shot on a 120 pound doe.

Also there are plenty of ballistic gel pictures out there that show the wound channels. Not a huge difference in the 308 168 gr TMK vs the 223 77 gr TMK.


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Would be interesting to see wouldn't it. Side by side gel tests of 69tmk, 77tmk, 130tmk, 168tmk, 195tmk. Maybe a test of each at various impact velocities, scale up from 1500fps to 3000fps or something like that.

There’s a guy on YouTube I found awhile back that does this kind of testing. Shoots the same bullets at a few different velocities into gel. Pretty interesting. I’ll see if I can find the channel.


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