.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[roosiebull]

Aside from living in a sh!thole state that requires monos, WHY would you choose to shoot them out of a 223 for anything?!?!

not knowing any better.... that's why i picked up a box of barnes when i first got my AR setup for lion calling... i simply didn't know it was a poor choice... luckily they didn't shoot well compared to many other rounds i also tested... it wasn't until reading this thread that i realized they were a poor choice in .223... now it makes perfect sense.

i was starting to lean on Barnes for all of my rifles before reading this thread, but this whole thread changed my perspective on bullet choice in general, not just for the .223.

nobody really does a good job explaining why they choose a match style, or soft bullet for hunting in general... they are popular, but most don't seem to know why they choose them over a tougher bullet, they just buy their long range rig and use match bullets because others do.... this thread shed light on the "why" of someone choosing a softer hunting bullet, which makes sense to me now that i understand why.

most info packed thread on any hunting forum imo

 

[fish impaler]

Have had no issues with .223 Barnes tsx 62gr out of a savage . not a ton of data points but 2 CA black tail bucks, 2 WY mule deer bucks, and a WT , and 3 antelope. 200-310yards

 

[Ens Entium]

For anyone looking Sportsman's has the 223 Superlite in stock as of 10pm 12/10/21:

Tikka T3x Superlite Stainless Bolt Action Rifle - 223 Remington

Tikka T3x Superlite Rifle -This Superlite model is made exclusively for Sportsman's Warehouse, and ranges in weight from an incredible 5.9 lbs - 6 lbs. The Superlite model has an appealing fluted barrel. Tikka rifles are manufactured in Finland.

www.sportsmans.com

Even better it's on sale!

 

[kkp005]

@mt100gr. Greatly appreciate your input. I was hoping to get close to 2600 and it sounds like I’ll have a pretty good chance. 400 yard max is plenty for were I’ll be hunting. For sure. Thanks again.

I’m getting 2640 out of an 18” barrel with 23.9 of varget

 

[kkp005]

Is the 77gr Federal Premium Law Enforcement Tactical Tip Matchking the same bullet as the 77gr tmk?? Just a blue tip instead of green ?

 

[tradman]

Adding to the thread. I'll be using my 18 in AR for my rifle deer hunt starting on the 26th through the 31st. I'll be using the 70 grain Barnes Vor Tx 5.56 X 45 load. Shot some steel this past weekend. Hunting accuracy is pretty good. Also threw some .308 ELDX at the steel. 130 yds. Pace count certified. All the hits on the head are your Zmax .223 handloads. Not to shabby.

 

[Formidilosus]

Is the 77gr Federal Premium Law Enforcement Tactical Tip Matchking the same bullet as the 77gr tmk?? Just a blue tip instead of green ?

Correct.

 

[fshaw]

I just traded my ar for an unfired 40yr old L461 sako in 223. I plan on hunting blacktails and varmints with it. Cheaper plinking ammo avail and best of all you can see your hits when hunting. Thats a big one for me. I will use my 270 for mulies due to wind and to be able to reach out to 400. I would say up to 100-150 for a 223 is about it for deer.

Great trade.

 

[Formidilosus]

Pictures of just a portion of the mess that a couple of 77gr TMK’s from an 18” gas gun gun caused to an elks chest at 287 yards.

This is lifting the inside scapula up- that’s grass from the stomach in the wound…



Scapula removed-




Remember- you need a magnum to kill elk. 223’s are irresponsible.

 

[Lawnboi]

Anyone have a line on a stainless tikka 223 in wi or somewhere that will ship? Buddy just got hosed by sportsman’s warehouse and now is sitting on parts and no gun

 

[amassi]

Anyone have a line on a stainless tikka 223 in wi or somewhere that will ship? Buddy just got hosed by sportsman’s warehouse and now is sitting on parts and no gun

Hosed how? I ordered 2 that were supposed to be here Friday and they haven't shown yet

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[Lawnboi]

Hosed how? I ordered 2 that were supposed to be here Friday and they haven't shown yet

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He got a canceled email

 

[Mountainbuck]

Hey pictures and information

 

[amassi]

He got a canceled email

Oh great
If he's not married to stainless there's a blued 1:8 on gunbroker

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/918430470

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[Jimbee]

Euro optic shows some 223 CTRs in stock

 

[Lawnboi]

Euro optic shows some 223 CTRs in stock

Even some lefty’s

 

[Tesoro]

Anyone have a line on a stainless tikka 223 in wi or somewhere that will ship? Buddy just got hosed by sportsman’s warehouse and now is sitting on parts and no gun

Highly recommend taking a look at the Sauer 100 line. Definitely a step up from Tikka with same accuracy and same price range.

 

[amassi]

Highly recommend taking a look at the Sauer 100 line. Definitely a step up from Tikka with same accuracy and same price range.

How are they a step up

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[Lawnboi]

Highly recommend taking a look at the Sauer 100 line. Definitely a step up from Tikka with same accuracy and same price range.

He’s looking for something he can put in a chassis and adjust between him and his kids.

 

[Tesoro]

How are they a step up

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Higher quality finish, action and safety control. Better quality synth stock, with reverse comb for non-prone shooting and dosent feel plastic like tikka. Better balance. Both have equally nice adj. triggers. Sauer builds all rifles from the plain version to the Maharajah version to shoot 5 shot 1 moa with all brand name factory ammo. They will shoot 1/4 moa with right ammo. Hold poa of aim even when so hot will burn skin off your hand. Their barrels on 100 model are heat swaged into recvr so not removable but thats what sets them in affordable price range vs all their other switch barrel models with super wood and mirror bluing. Sauer dosent cut corners on the 100 for the metal part of the build. I have never had to swap barrels in my hunting rifles so for me not an issue. Tikkas have better re-sale because most dont understand the Sauer line thx to marketing and gun forum conformity. Not knocking the Tikka but for the money I would suggest reading up looking at Sauer. They are more unique and come from great gun making lineage.