.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[amassi]

I'd love to see a photo of the rifle & chrono reading, because you're beating everyone else by about 400fps.....

Just mix a little true blue with the tac and use an electric toothbrush to settle the load.

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[KHntr]

223AI and 88 ELD m tally so far for the weekend is one bull moose at 175 yards - both shoulders and bullet caught under the hide, one coyote this morning at 257 yards - bullet in beside the tail and out the neck, and a black bear at 151 yards - both shoulders broken and an exit.

 

[Rooggvc]

223AI and 88 ELD m tally so far for the weekend is one bull moose at 175 yards - both shoulders and bullet caught under the hide, one coyote this morning at 257 yards - bullet in beside the tail and out the neck, and a black bear at 151 yards - both shoulders broken and an exit.

What kind of velocity are you getting out of the 223 AI?

 

[chamois]

@Formidilosus
Hola Formid…
I am already thinking in my next 22-250 rebarrel… Would you twist it 1:8” or tighter?
I am extremely happy with 1:8” 22-250 shooting 77 TMK both accuracy and performance wise but I admit to be interested in 88gr ELDMs which may shoot in a 1:8” but that would be better served in a 1:7” or at least a 1:7.5”, I think.
Also, one day all this hoarding of supplies shall be over and with your help we might see a 90gr TMK!
So, would you go 1:8” or would you go tighter?
Like I said, cartridge is a 22-250.
Thank You!
Alvaro

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

@Formidilosus
Hola Formid…
I am already thinking in my next 22-250 rebarrel… Would you twist it 1:8” or tighter?
I am extremely happy with 1:8” 22-250 shooting 77 TMK both accuracy and performance wise but I admit to be interested in 88gr ELDMs which may shoot in a 1:8” but that would be better served in a 1:7” or at least a 1:7.5”, I think.
Also, one day all this hoarding of supplies shall be over and with your help we might see a 90gr TMK!
So, would you go 1:8” or would you go tighter?
Like I said, cartridge is a 22-250.
Thank You!
Alvaro

What kind of on game results are people getting with the 88 ELDM?

 

[KHntr]

What kind of velocity are you getting out of the 223 AI?

I have multiple 223AI’s to be honest, built on Sako/Remington/Kimber rifles.

With the latest one (Remington) and 88’s I’m at 2740 fps. I could probably get more speed but I basically did load “development” by finding pressure and then backing off some and making a handful to confirm. First five shots made one ragged hole so called it good enough and shot the rest at 800 to get an idea of velocity for the dope.

With the Kimber and moly’d 75’s I’m at 2980 fps. Brass life isn’t spectacular though, maybe 5 reloads on average with Lapua brass and no annealing. The 1:9 twist is on the bubble for stability though I think.

 

[KHntr]

What kind of on game results are people getting with the 88 ELDM?

So far seems to be about 20+ inches of penetration with a hole almost the diameter of a pop can bored through the rib cage. Bear and moose rib cages pictured. Exit hole in the bear hide was *maybe* 0.3”. Wouldn’t have left much of a blood trail. Entrance holes on the bigger stuff I don’t think a person could find, but on a coyote where you immediately hit bone under the hide there is definitely a blood trail from the entrance.

88’s are not exactly fur friendly as exits less than 10” from the entrance look to be around 6” or so through hide. (Sample of 4 though. 75% had big exits, the other had 20” of penetration and exited with a 1/2” hole).

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

So far seems to be about 20+ inches of penetration with a hole almost the diameter of a pop can bored through the rib cage. Bear and moose rib cages pictured. Exit hole in the bear hide was *maybe* 0.3”. Wouldn’t have left much of a blood trail. Entrance holes on the bigger stuff I don’t think a person could find, but on a coyote where you immediately hit bone under the hide there is definitely a blood trail from the entrance.

88’s are not exactly fur friendly as exits less than 10” from the entrance look to be around 6” or so through hide. (Sample of 4 though. 75% had big exits, the other had 20” of penetration and exited with a 1/2” hole).

That is nasty!

 

[KHntr]

That is nasty!

it’s a little ridiculous alright.

Twist rate probably has a lot to do with it….(grin)

 

[Silent_Matt]

I finally made it to the end! Thanks to all for sharing some eye opening info.

I've been contemplating getting a new hunting rifle soon, and am looking something that I could also use for some light long range practice. I was looking at the Sig Cross in 6.5 Creed, but it doesn't look like the accuracy is too great. I think I've settled on a CTR and Bravo stock, but not sure I want a 6.5 with how expensive reloading components are for it. Why doesn't Tikka make a CTR in .223? Maybe I should go with a Howa action in .223 or a lighter Tikka? What do you guys suggest?

 

[PNWGATOR]

Keep it simple. Get a T3x in .223 and add a vertical grip module and a suppressor. Done.

 

[Deywalker]

Why doesn't Tikka make a CTR in .223?

They do.

Tikka T3X CTR .223 Rem SS 20" Barrel 1:8" Rifle JRTXC314SR8

Tikka T3X CTR .223 Rem SS 20" Barrel 1:8" Rifle JRTXC314SR8 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

 

[Pharmseller]

I'd love to see a photo of the rifle & chrono reading, because you're beating everyone else by about 400fps.....

Huh. Not sure how to respond.

If I’m lying I can just fake chrono pics, right? I can find anything I want with just a few clicks. No way to really verify if I’m telling the truth, short of flying out from Tennessee for a look.

I ain’t fibbing but there’s nothing wrong with healthy skepticism.

If I cared enough about providing proof I’d get an assistant and video the event. Tougher to fake that.

But, I don’t care enough.

And the assistant would be a hot redhead with fake hoots in a bikini.



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[Silent_Matt]

They do.

Tikka T3X CTR .223 Rem SS 20" Barrel 1:8" Rifle JRTXC314SR8

Tikka T3X CTR .223 Rem SS 20" Barrel 1:8" Rifle JRTXC314SR8 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

Thanks. I've been searching "In stock" items, so guess that's why I missed it.

 

[Deywalker]

Thanks. I've been searching "In stock" items, so guess that's why I missed it.

I was looking for a CTR in .308/6.5 and the only ones I could easily find were the .223s, now its the other way around. I'm sure they'll be back in stock within a couple months.

 

[Billy Goat]

Huh. Not sure how to respond.

If I’m lying I can just fake chrono pics, right? I can find anything I want with just a few clicks. No way to really verify if I’m telling the truth, short of flying out from Tennessee for a look.

I ain’t fibbing but there’s nothing wrong with healthy skepticism.

If I cared enough about providing proof I’d get an assistant and video the event. Tougher to fake that.

But, I don’t care enough.

And the assistant would be a hot redhead with fake hoots in a bikini.



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That wouldn't help you.

Red heads aren't to be trusted, especially the ones with fake parts that like to show them off.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus
Hola Formid…
I am already thinking in my next 22-250 rebarrel… Would you twist it 1:8” or tighter?
I am extremely happy with 1:8” 22-250 shooting 77 TMK both accuracy and performance wise but I admit to be interested in 88gr ELDMs which may shoot in a 1:8” but that would be better served in a 1:7” or at least a 1:7.5”, I think.
Also, one day all this hoarding of supplies shall be over and with your help we might see a 90gr TMK!
So, would you go 1:8” or would you go tighter?
Like I said, cartridge is a 22-250.
Thank You!
Alvaro

1-8” will generally work for the 88’s in a 22-250, but a 1-7” or 1-7.5” is better.


And we need a 90+ grain TMK.

 

[TxxAgg]

Shot a big nasty tonight. My 8 yr old for size reference!

223, T3x 22" barrel w/77tmk and 6x swfa. About 120 yds quartering to us. No exit. Ran maybe 80 yds.

 

[woods89]

Couple data points on the 69 gr TMK.
Entry

Exit

Shot was 15 yds, muzzle velocity of 2885. Chest cavity was wrecked, diaphragm was breached. She went 80 yds or so, but most of that was sort of crashing down a steep slope.

And this guy

This shot was 70 yds or so. Deer was slightly quartering away. It looked like a couple fragments may have exited at the point of the shoulder, but no real exit hole. Chest cavity was wrecked. He went 70-80 yds.

 

[Pharmseller]

As close as I get…

.223 Rem TAC and 75 ELDM Experiment

I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not...

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