Is there hope for Meateater?

[ODB]

Does it make you feel uncomfortable?

No, is that what it’s supposed to do?

Just for your information, skip, I’ve done one hell of a lot more reading and thinking on this and other topics relating to race issues than you have; that’s an immutable fact. You, on the other hand, seem to have bought into what CRT purports to be, and apparently have not “done the work” to understand what it’s purpose is.

you should know CRT is only one aspect of Critial theory, which seeks to problematize everything in order to gain power.

my problem with CRT is that the premise is false and that the solution is false. When you have someone like Ibrahim X Kende state that present discrimination as a reaction to previous discrimination is not actually discrimination, and you buy into that drivel, you are buying into a set of lies that ends nowhere good.

Ask yourself this question : if CRT is necessary to teach the “whole” truth, and the left has largely run the schools for decades now, who has failed? They have created a vacuum in which to allow their vile hatred to flow. This is not a mistake. Do you know the Frankfurt school? Probably not. Might want to Google that in between IPAs.

you sound like you have read White Fragility. I have too. What you have in Robin deangelo is a grifter of the highest merit. Someone you pay 15k to come to
Your company to tell you how racist you are, all the while hiding behind her own book a evidence of her inculcation innthr larger grift. BLM anyone? By the way, deangelo lives in a very white rural suburb of Seattle. She only comes to town to sell the grift. Is the picture coming clearer?

I have seen personally how CRT poisons relationships, mine with an old neighbor included. When a guy you have lived next to for 14 years, whose half black/half Japanese daughter literally grows up best friends with your own daughter, who you played poker with and generally were good friends suddenly glances at you with the eyes of suspicion and asks what steps I will be taking to be more anti-racist (more bullshit from Kende), that is where I get off the train. We got along just fine, we’re allies for a decade and a half - until CRT got ahold of him. Then all the sudden i had work to do.

so, you can sit back and parrot all the CRT bullshit you learned in class, but know one day it will come for you, too.

 

[Newtosavage]

No, is that what it’s supposed to do?

Just for your information, skip, I’ve done one hell of a lot more reading and thinking on this and other topics relating to race issues than you have; that’s an immutable fact. You, on the other hand, seem to have bought into what CRT purports to be, and apparently have not “done the work” to understand what it’s purpose is.

you should know CRT is only one aspect of Critial theory, which seeks to problematize everything in order to gain power.

my problem with CRT is that the premise is false and that the solution is false. When you have someone like Ibrahim X Kende state that present discrimination as a reaction to previous discrimination is not actually discrimination, and you buy into that drivel, you are buying into a set of lies that ends nowhere good.

Ask yourself this question : if CRT is necessary to teach the “whole” truth, and the left has largely run the schools for decades now, who has failed? They have created a vacuum in which to allow their vile hatred to flow. This is not a mistake. Do you know the Frankfurt school? Probably not. Might want to Google that in between IPAs.

you sound like you have read White Fragility. I have too. What you have in Robin deangelo is a grifter of the highest merit. Someone you pay 15k to come to
Your company to tell you how racist you are, all the while hiding behind her own book a evidence of her inculcation innthr larger grift. BLM anyone? By the way, deangelo lives in a very white rural suburb of Seattle. She only comes to town to sell the grift. Is the picture coming clearer?

I have seen personally how CRT poisons relationships, mine with an old neighbor included. When a guy you have lived next to for 14 years, whose half black/half Japanese daughter literally grows up best friends with your own daughter, who you played poker with and generally were good friends suddenly glances at you with the eyes of suspicion and asks what steps I will be taking to be more anti-racist (more bullshit from Kende), that is where I get off the train. We got along just fine, we’re allies for a decade and a half - until CRT got ahold of him.

so, you can sit back and parrot all the CRT bullshit you learned in class, but know one day it will come for you, too.

"than you have..." LOL

Well "skip" that's where you went wrong. You have no idea but you sure think you do.

If you're offended, there is probably a reason for that. You've bought into the zero sum game theory. That in order for others to have more, somehow you must get less. How sad.

You seem to be an authority on grifters though, probably all the while ignoring the biggest grifter this nation has ever seen in the white house. LOL

 

[100percent]

I don’t know what happened to Meateater but clearly it took a turn for the political. I would have to assume there is major pressure from the media group.

These ultra liberal media companies seem to think the only way to make money is go co completely “Woke”. Even in the face of media Juggernaut’s like Rogan and Adam Carolla.

After the last podcast there’s no denying it anymore. It had absolutely nothing to do with hunting. Was simply pushing the racism agenda.

BUT…..

On the other hand they did replace Ben O’Brien who I’m not 100% isn’t a vegan anti hunter in disguise. I’m all for open dialogue but Ben seemed to agree with and side with the vegans and anti-hunters.

With Clay Newcomb is an incredible asset to their team. He’s a true hunter that has a great understand of the history and traditions that make this life style important. He reminds me of pre-corporate Rinella.

Maybe just maybe they have finally seen the writing on the wall and are going to take a turn towards what made them successful originally. Clay could be a screaming wokester, im not sure but his conservation views are spot on. That’s all that matters to me.

I’m hopeful.

NO!

 

[Shraggs]

here’s some light reading: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309394751_Critical_Race_Theory

Note in the second paragraph it admits CRT was based in Marxism. Anyone who argues against that fact is an ignorant tool.

Thank you, very interesting read. Confirmation for me.

I like rinella when’s he’s hunting.

Generational maybe, but all this tv, video talking about indirect aspects of hunting, seems wasteful. I do love anyone willing to educate tho.

it’s kinda like talking about s_x, in various ways, from different view points, cultures, bla bla. I learn and enjoy more by doing.

 

[Newtosavage]

Thank you, very interesting read. Confirmation for me.

I like rinella when’s he’s hunting.

Generational maybe, but all this tv, video talking about indirect aspects of hunting, seems wasteful. I do love anyone willing to educate tho.

it’s kinda like talking about s_x, in various ways, from different view points, cultures, bla bla. I learn and enjoy more by doing.

Hard to argue with that logic!

 

[Mike7]

You guys do realize that Newtosavage is likely just a bomb thrower only? I didn't realize it at first. I think it is clear at this point that he is not interested in reasoned debate, but instead in one liners and provocation.

 

[ODB]

"than you have..." LOL

Well "skip" that's where you went wrong. You have no idea but you sure think you do.

If you're offended, there is probably a reason for that. You've bought into the zero sum game theory. That in order for others to have more, somehow you must get less. How sad.

You are profoundly, and apparently, incurably, ignorant.

Please tell me, based on what you’ve read, what leads you to believe I believe in a zero sum theory? And while you are at it, let us know what YOU have done?

 

[Newtosavage]

You are profoundly, and apparently, incurably, ignorant.

Please tell me, based on what you’ve read, what leads you to believe I believe in a zero sum theory? And while you are at it, let us know what YOU have done?

Nah, you don't get to just call people names here friend. That's not how it works.

You're obviously upset. Maybe go take a nap or eat a snickers yo.

 

[Newtosavage]

You guys do realize that Newtosavage is likely just a bomb thrower only? I didn't realize it at first. I think it is clear at this point that he is not interested in reasoned debate, but instead in one liners and provocation.

Nah, it only feels that way when I point out things like CRT is nothing more than telling the whole truth and some right winger loses their damn minds.

If you have "reasoned" debate, I'm all in.

Funny how someone can accuse people of things they never said, call them names, but they aren't the "bomb throwers." LOL All comes down to which "team" you're so desperate to be on I guess.

 

[ODB]

Nah, you don't get to just call people names here friend. That's not how it works.

You're obviously upset. Maybe go take a nap or eat a snickers yo.

we’re not friends, and I’m not upset. Even though you will infer that rather than offer any of your experience.

and ignorance is curable, stupidly is not. You are ignorant, that’s unquestionable, it’s up to you to make sure you don’t remain that way. fin

 

[Newtosavage]

we’re not friends, and I’m not upset. Even though you will infer that rather than offer any of your experience.

and ignorance is curable, stupidly is not. You are ignorant, that’s unquestionable, it’s up to you to make sure you don’t remain that way. fin

See, here's where I would offer my experience and then a whole pack of wolves would just open up on me. Nah, there's no gain in that. I've spent a lifetime doing that and I'm a minority on a forum like this - Free thinker. Not beholden to a political agenda or self-image of superiority - I just look for the truth in things. That's all.

When I see 99.9% of people who have an issue with something all belonging to a certain group, well that makes me go "huh" maybe there's a reason for that... They must feel they have something to lose (and here's where the zero sum game comes in...)

Fact is, none of us have enough experience to really teach anyone about race or racism. Better we just STFU and listen for a while. We've only had 250+ years to do all the talking.

 

[grfox92]

See, here's where I would offer my experience and then a whole pack of wolves would just open up on me. Nah, there's no gain in that. I've spent a lifetime doing that and I'm a minority on a forum like this - Free thinker. Not beholden to a political agenda or self-image of superiority - I just look for the truth in things. That's all.

When I see 99.9% of people who have an issue with something all belonging to a certain group, well that makes me go "huh" maybe there's a reason for that... They must feel they have something to lose (and here's where the zero sum game comes in...)

Fact is, none of us have enough experience to really teach anyone about race or racism. Better we just STFU and listen for a while. We've only had 250+ years to do all the talking.

By "we" you mean White People?

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[Newtosavage]

By "we" you mean White People?

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Why do you assume that?

 

[Alaskanopolis]

You do realize that critical race theory is nothing more than choosing to tell the whole truth right? Nah, prolly not.

I agree with what you wrote right up until that point where you expressed your discomfort with someone telling the whole truth.

I have no problem with that. If people do, they should ask themselves why they do.

That’s absolutely not what Critical Theory is. I suggest you read some papers by the creators of it.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

None. CRT is the new umbrella term for anything that makes people's insides feel sad or threatened.

Critical Theory, of which Critical Race Theory is an offshoot, is actually a post-modernist French political activist ideoalogy, as stated by its creators. Would you say the same thing about people claiming things to be Marxist, since CRY is basically an evolution of Marxism? An ideology that lead to deaths of hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century. But just keep sticking your head in the sand like the population of Cambodia did until 1/4 of the population was murdered in less than five years. Cool.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

"than you have..." LOL

Well "skip" that's where you went wrong. You have no idea but you sure think you do.

If you're offended, there is probably a reason for that. You've bought into the zero sum game theory. That in order for others to have more, somehow you must get less. How sad.

You seem to be an authority on grifters though, probably all the while ignoring the biggest grifter this nation has ever seen in the white house. LOL

Of course your TDS brings you back to Trump.

 

[Kbhillhunter]

Critical Theory, of which Critical Race Theory is an offshoot, is actually a post-modernist French political activist ideoalogy, as stated by its creators. Would you say the same thing about people claiming things to be Marxist, since CRY is basically an evolution of Marxism? An ideology that lead to deaths of hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century. But just keep sticking your head in the sand like the population of Cambodia did until 1/4 of the population was murdered in less than five years. Cool.

Cool, so it sounds like we are in agreement that this has nothing to do with the meateater episode and the fact that CRT even came up in this thread confirms my original comments.

 

[Scooter90254]

You guys do realize that Newtosavage is likely just a bomb thrower only? I didn't realize it at first. I think it is clear at this point that he is not interested in reasoned debate, but instead in one liners and provocation.

You are absolutely right. Quick scan of all of his recent posts in other threads shows the same.

Either selling something or bombing something.

Didn’t see a single positive hunting or fishing post.

 

[fwafwow]

[snip]

If you have "reasoned" debate, I'm all in.

[snip]

I'm still waiting on an a response to post #131.

 

[grfox92]

Why do you assume that?

Well who exactly do you mean when you say "we" have had 250 years to do all the talking?

You are a troll.

The fact that you are on here defending CRT is nothing short of insanity, do you have blue hair and a bunch of facial piercings and a BLM bumper sticker on your Subaru also?

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