Who is this weasel??

[Chad.frank]

Exactly, guilt by association with no supporting evidence is very dangerous territory.

We are drifting into snowflake/conspiricist-land here where all evidence, even evidence directly contradicting claims is seen as evidence of those claims. I'm not good at taking my own advice but there really is no point in even trying to reason people out of a position that wasn't reasoned into.

Oh yeah I agree. When this all came down I saw on the Instagram post that sorta blew this thing open that people were asking for Randy Newberg and Corey Jacobson and others to speak up on the situation. I thought why on earth would they when they have nothing to do with it. It’s pretty ridiculous I think. I’ve got a good buddy that works for Sitka. If everyone that works there are half as crazy about hunting and public lands and pro 2A as him, then I don’t think we have to worry.


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[WhiteOak]

don’t feel for one second that rok is anti 2A but I do feel they are pro money. And why would they come out against a major check writer? And that will be the death of it all.

This is called running business and it is something many of us will never have to deal with but the reality is that we all must find our own way to make money. The beauty and the crux of capitalism. Heavy is the crown type shit. In my talks with family or friends that have thier own businesses I have came to the conclusion that I am happy to collect a paycheck without the risk of going under if something happens. Decisions aren't easy and people lifes are on the line. Business owners too need to support thier families as well as thier employees families. As cliche as the saying is this is nothing personal this is business.

I dont think anyone owes anyone an explanation or statement. I do not think there is some divide between the older and younger generation of hunters I think that the hunting community has grown more of a microcosm of society and there are now all types of people looking to get thier own meat. Meaning hunting support is gathering steam. More common ground than uncommon and the breaking off into types of hunters doesn't do any good. There does need to be a unified front against the antis and understand they have as much passion as we do, no matter how misguided. I also believe that a majority or the population does support hunting and sees the antis of being the fringe.

As far as sitka nothing leads me to believe they are anything anti hunting or anti gun but that they are pro business and making cash. Someone has to make those decisions

 

[tdhanses]

Why haven’t any of the big names on this sight or hat they sponsor speak up. Tyler freel did on his pod cast but overall it’s been real quiet

I personally don’t think they or anyone sponsored by Sitka needs to explain or discuss this, really they have nothing to do with the Post/Sitka relationship.

 

[Dusty2426]

This is called running business and it is something many of us will never have to deal with but the reality is that we all must find our own way to make money. The beauty and the crux of capitalism. Heavy is the crown type shit. In my talks with family or friends that have thier own businesses I have came to the conclusion that I am happy to collect a paycheck without the risk of going under if something happens. Decisions aren't easy and people lifes are on the line. Business owners too need to support thier families as well as thier employees families. As cliche as the saying is this is nothing personal this is business.

I dont think anyone owes anyone an explanation or statement. I do not think there is some divide between the older and younger generation of hunters I think that the hunting community has grown more of a microcosm of society and there are now all types of people looking to get thier own meat. Meaning hunting support is gathering steam. More common ground than uncommon and the breaking off into types of hunters doesn't do any good. There does need to be a unified front against the antis and understand they have as much passion as we do, no matter how misguided. I also believe that a majority or the population does support hunting and sees the antis of being the fringe.

As far as sitka nothing leads me to believe they are anything anti hunting or anti gun but that they are pro business and making cash. Someone has to make those decisions

The days of folks standing for what they believe in are gone to the highest bidder. Not hating on them but hating what the meaning of integrity has been blurred to. Not sure how we got here but it’s a train we must get on. “Stand for what you believe in” has blurred into tolerance and the 2 are totally separated by character and integrity. You absolutely need to be tolerant until it invades your personal beliefs. Then stand your ground until you are educated in their belief and then make a determination. When it comes to hunters vs 2a I so often see folks try to confuse 2A with hunting and that has nothing to do with it. But runs in a parallel universe.

 

[Fatcamp]

Why haven’t any of the big names on this sight or hat they sponsor speak up. Tyler freel did on his pod cast but overall it’s been real quiet

Hunttalk doesn't even have a thread on it. Interesting.

 

[Diesel]

When folks question whether Rocslide is Anti 2nd, consider that they let this type of thread exist openly. I cannot think of one reason why Rocslide would want to express an opinion on this topic. This site is about hunting and the gear we use in it's pursuit. That sponsors want to be connected to Rocslide and the participants is only logical and both parties benefit. So consider this logic before casting stones at the medium that provides the opportunity to have this discussion in the first place.

Most here are very passionate about hunting and the 2nd and it shows when some/anyone is seen to side against either or both. I am just saying to step back from the keyboard and take a couple of deep breaths before you let it fly.

As for Sitka, they will either make a statement or they won't. Either way they are making a statement.

I would like to commend Rocslide for their neutrality and tolerance for topics like this. Open CIVIL debate allows us the chance to think about where we each stand on topics seldom at the top of our minds in a world of instant communication. It is the opportunity to present your view to make others think or be persuaded by another point of view. Freedom of speech at it's best.

Disclaimer: I am not connected to either Rocslide or Sitka in any way

Carry on.

 

[Dusty2426]

When folks question whether Rocslide is Anti 2nd, consider that they let this type of thread exist openly. I cannot think of one reason why Rocslide would want to express an opinion on this topic. This site is about hunting and the gear we use in it's pursuit. That sponsors want to be connected to Rocslide and the participants is only logical and both parties benefit. So consider this logic before casting stones at the medium that provides the opportunity to have this discussion in the first place.

Most here are very passionate about hunting and the 2nd and it shows when some/anyone is seen to side against either or both. I am just saying to step back from the keyboard and take a couple of deep breaths before you let it fly.

As for Sitka, they will either make a statement or they won't. Either way they are making a statement.

I would like to commend Rocslide for their neutrality and tolerance for topics like this. Open CIVIL debate allows us the chance to think about where we each stand on topics seldom at the top of our minds in a world of instant communication. It is the opportunity to present your view to make others think or be persuaded by another point of view. Freedom of speech at it's best.

Disclaimer: I am not connected to either Rocslide or Sitka in any way

Carry on.

For the record I never once said rok was anti 2a. I did say that since Sitka was a sponsor I felt they would not comment against Sitka.

 

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[Dusty2426]

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[Diesel]

For the record I never once said rok was anti 2a. I did say that since Sitka was a sponsor I felt they would not comment against Sitka.

Dusty, my comments are not directed at you or anyone in particular, just trying o keep it civil.

 

[*zap*]

If I was running Sitka why would I tell the world how I plan to deal with an internal issue before I resolved that issue?

That would be a pretty stupid.

 

[Dusty2426]

Dusty, my comments are not directed at you or anyone in particular, just trying o keep it civil.

Sometimes discussions on the internet are often read in bad tones. I’m not the least upset just quizzical. I was told by an old timer that “ if you argue with someone for 10 minutes, 9 of those are your own fault.” So I’m just keeping open discussions and seeing how folks feel.

 

[Diesel]

Me too, I think this has been a really good discussion.

 

[tdhanses]

If I was running Sitka why would I tell the world how I plan to deal with an internal issue before I resolved that issue?

That would be a pretty stupid.

Because in this day with the internet blowing things up fast there is a very large possible economic reason to quickly snip things in the butt then deal with the employee first.

 

[Boman]

My God. The number of pussies on this forum is astonishing. Sitka knows damn well what they're doing. They know they will lose some hunters over this but they hope it will blow over. You guys that post on here that say it's no big deal and Sitka doesn't need to make a statement are weak as hell. You little girls look to take a knee at every chance you get. Im Disgusted by what I've read here. To the few men who are willing to stand up and call Sitka out Thank you. Thank you for having a spine and a voice. To the Sitka "athletes" and reps. You're cowards. I heard over and over how you are not happy about this and that Sitka will make a statement,yet not one of you have said a word in many days. If i get banned because of this..Good. i know where i stand and it's straight the **** up. When hunters cant stand together on these basic fundamentals for gun ownership and anti hunters then we are done for.

 

[WhiteOak]

Haha riiight.
Can you not see that demanding a statement from someone about anothers actions or words is a straight snowflake move. Take a pill there bud relax.
Calling everyone pussies and little girls then complaining about hunters not sticking together is pretty rich too.

 

[MtGomer]

This thread has lost its usefulness.

It’s locked.

 

[CorbLand]

Haha riiight.
Can you not see that demanding a statement from someone about anothers actions or words is a straight snowflake move. Take a pill there bud relax.
Calling everyone pussies and little girls then complaining about hunters not sticking together is pretty rich too.

Oh man, I was really hoping nobody would dignify his comment with a response.

 

[SWOHTR]

i know where i stand and it's straight the **** up.

That's how you stand, not where you stand. Words have meaning.

 

[Beendare]

I hope they kick this Post dude to the curb......and make a strong public statement.

But in the meantime....some pretty good stuff on the sitka website; Their "Why"
Sitka Gear | Turning Clothing Into Gear

And they do have some quality outspoken pro staff like this gal, some good comments too in the section, "Leading by example''
Sitka Gear | Turning Clothing Into Gear