Is there hope for Meateater?

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You'll be devastated to hear that he also writes books.

Not lately, unless you count cookbooks.

I’m still a Renella fan and generally enjoy his podcast (haven’t listened to the episode of discussion) but wish he would write something with more substance again. I’ve read all his books and love his writing, especially Scavengers Guide and Meateater. I get it though, with the majority of your outdoor exploits being documented by a camera crew, it doesn’t leave much to write about.


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Hold on- I gotta go make my tin foil hat before I read this.

strap it on right. The dude, @Alaskanopolis is actually correct. Critical theory is exactly rhe marriage of Marxism and post-modernism. It takes everything and looks at it via the oppressor and oppressed. It is a process of deconstruction in order to insert new power structures. Critical race theory is simply seeing every inequity among any race as being driven primarily by racism. It takes into account almost no other factor in the calculation.

unless you’ve read Derek bell, Foucault, kristeva, “mapping the margins”, derrider, etc, you’re not really aware of what’s going on.
 
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strap it on right. The dude, @Alaskanopolis is actually correct. Critical theory is exactly rhe marriage of Marxism and post-modernism. It takes everything and looks at it via the oppressor and oppressed. It is a process of deconstruction in order to insert new power structures. Critical race theory is simply seeing every inequity among any race as being driven primarily by racism. It takes into account almost no other factor in the calculation.

unless you’ve read Derek bell, Foucault, kristeva, “mapping the margins”, derrider, etc, you’re not really aware of what’s going on.
No more judging people by the content of their character. CRT is racist, collectivist trash and has no place in a free and open society, just like fascism, communism or any other authoritarian ideology that runs counter the (classic) liberal values the US was founded on.
 

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I don’t have a lot of skin in the game here, but really didn’t see how this was “commie stuff”

Are we so anti -woke that we can’t listen to the history of hunting in black culture? That’s really all it was, I certainly didn’t see any hidden agenda like the rockslide community so often seems to be able to find.
Same here. I can understand the timing was terrible, but I never even thought about slammed and hunting. I found it informative and interesting on a subject I'd never even considered.

Also, I've found that the quality of the meat eater podcast had gone down in my opinion. He always used to encourage civil unrest, in those words, until the riots started last year.
 
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The podcast has become less interesting over time. I hadn't listened to an episode in quite awhile. Turned one on last week and it just ceased to be entertaining to me. Too much talk about non outdoors related stuff with no substance. I made it about 20 minutes and turned it off. It's a shame because I really liked his earlier podcasts with interesting guests and good stories about hunting and fishing, animals and history related to hunting and fishing.

One thing I hadn't noticed until I read it here once, was how often he cuts off whoever is talking. I get it's his show and all, but dang, let someone finish their point. After that, I noticed it a lot more and it became increasingly annoying and frustrating to listen to. I've moved on to other podcasts for the time being. Maybe one day I'll tune back in.
 

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@Adam Gibbs yup. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that the interrupting schtick has gotten really old. Or when he sounds like he’s going to explain something complicated and then just gives up as though it’s not worth the time.

it seems kind of like an act now, and he has become a parody of himself.
 
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The podcast has become less interesting over time. I hadn't listened to an episode in quite awhile. Turned one on last week and it just ceased to be entertaining to me. Too much talk about non outdoors related stuff with no substance. I made it about 20 minutes and turned it off. It's a shame because I really liked his earlier podcasts with interesting guests and good stories about hunting and fishing, animals and history related to hunting and fishing.

One thing I hadn't noticed until I read it here once, was how often he cuts off whoever is talking. I get it's his show and all, but dang, let someone finish their point. After that, I noticed it a lot more and it became increasingly annoying and frustrating to listen to. I've moved on to other podcasts for the time being. Maybe one day I'll tune back in.
I noticed his interrupting too. It’s one of the reasons I stopped listening.
 
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I noticed his interrupting too. It’s one of the reasons I stopped listening.
Same. He tries to control the dialogue too much. His guest don't have a chance speak without being constantly redirected. It's tough to listen to. However, I still like the guy but I don't listen to his podcast.

Ryan Callaghan I can listen to.
 

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The very best podcasters don't work on a set weekly schedule (Dan Carlin). When Meateater started to go weekly they started downhill. Rinella can be very entertaining but just like home made ice cream, there is a limit.

I had a 9 hour drive today so listened to the most recent episode. It was a good 45 min podcast that lasted 2 hours discussing a book that is out of print and published 13 years ago.

Clay Newcombe has been very good but they will grind him into dust too
 
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Same. He tries to control the dialogue too much. His guest don't have a chance speak without being constantly redirected. It's tough to listen to. However, I still like the guy but I don't listen to his podcast.

Ryan Callaghan I can listen to.

As an aside, if you want to hear a great interviewer, listen to Ben Shapiro’s Sunday show. He lets the guest talk until they naturally finish the thought. Sometimes the guest will go 5 solid minutes uninterrupted.
 

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Overall I like most of the podcast episodes, even though I really personally dislike things about some of his guests. However, I don't expect Steve to sternly challenge any of his guests, even where he might disagree with them somewhat.

If you listen closely, you will learn things from the discussion with some of these guests, even though Steve only gently nudges them for further clarification on their opinions.

I don't think that you would ever get an elitist snob like Tom Brokaw on your show, if you challenged him/guests harshly on his inconsistencies.

With this latest podcast, I found it interesting that the guest had to begrudgingly admit that maybe some motivations revolve around power and class, rather than just race, and I thought that the guest unknowingly made a great argument for the need of private gun ownership and private small business ownership, free from big government.

Yesterday there was big mining companies, plantations, railroad barons, banks, govt, etc. vying for power, and today we have big tech, big pharma, lawyers/teachers/civil service unions, banks, govt, etc. vying for power.

I think learning more about history is not a bad thing, but those who support or make excuses for CRT are clearly destructive and anti-American, whether they know it or not.
 

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strap it on right. The dude, @Alaskanopolis is actually correct. Critical theory is exactly rhe marriage of Marxism and post-modernism. It takes everything and looks at it via the oppressor and oppressed. It is a process of deconstruction in order to insert new power structures. Critical race theory is simply seeing every inequity among any race as being driven primarily by racism. It takes into account almost no other factor in the calculation.

unless you’ve read Derek bell, Foucault, kristeva, “mapping the margins”, derrider, etc, you’re not really aware of what’s going on.
Interesting posting, and I agree with all but the last sentence. I (and likely many others) know NONE of those names and yet have a very profound understanding of exactly what the hell is going on vis a vis CRT.
 
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I know who Rinella is, and Rogan. Don't know the rest.

Too busy or disinterested in listening to podcasts.

Too bad the good ambassadors to hunting are way retired or gone now...
 
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Critical race theory is simply seeing every inequity among any race as being driven primarily by racism. It takes into account almost no other factor in the calculation.

Critical race theory has no substance and makes absolutely no sense. Some idiot threw those words together thinking it sounds smart and fooled a bunch of the foolish.

Critical means urgent.

Race is a word only used by humans that describes unique characteristics of a species. Ethnicity has nothing to do with race.

Theory is a conclusion based on evidentiary support of a hypothesis through testing and following the scientific method.

So, it really means urgent, species traits, conclusions with proof.

Makes zero sense.
 
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