Who else hunts the west with a black rifle?

Taudisio

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So, all the normal parts of an AR, minus the gas block/gas tube? No other changes to the action?
Starting from the front of the rifle, NO- gas port, gas block, gas tube, bolt stop/release, buffer retainer, buffer, buffer spring.

The buffer tube is completely empty and could be a folder if I decided. The bolt carrier is chopped in half, so it doesn’t even go into the tube. There is no gas system in the gun.
 

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Those gasless AR’s are super cool.

I’m not an AR fan, but put hem together for the kids - no self respecting young dude would be without one. Now that AR10 components have come way down in price, I will probably end up building an accurate 6.5 creed or 7mm08 for one of them to hunt with.
 
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Starting from the front of the rifle, NO- gas port, gas block, gas tube, bolt stop/release, buffer retainer, buffer, buffer spring.

The buffer tube is completely empty and could be a folder if I decided. The bolt carrier is chopped in half, so it doesn’t even go into the tube. There is no gas system in the gun.

Without the buffer/spring, how is the BCG going forward, after you pull it back? Do you have it fixed to the charging handle somehow?
 

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Without the buffer/spring, how is the BCG going forward, after you pull it back? Do you have it fixed to the charging handle somehow?
It has a left side charging handle, fire, pull back and eject, push forward and it loads a new round from the magazine. Just like a bolt action, except you don’t have to lift up. I don’t have a video in action, but I have some where you can hear me working the bolt.

 
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It has a left side charging handle, fire, pull back and eject, push forward and it loads a new round from the magazine. Just like a bolt action, except you don’t have to lift up. I don’t have a video in action, but I have some where you can hear me working the bolt.


Ah, that makes total sense now. Thought you were using a normal charging handle. Very cool setup man.
 

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Ah, that makes total sense now. Thought you were using a normal charging handle. Very cool setup man.
It wasn’t my idea, just my tweaks on the original design.
 

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It wasn’t my idea, just my tweaks on the original design.
I remember that thread, pretty great ideas in there. Does the bolt ever unlock itself when fired? Seems unlikely.

I’m definitely going to use the sfar for my cow tag, if I can go.

I weighed this old .308 dpms once. The scope/rings are steel IOR stuff. Heavy.
That gun weighed 11 lbs loaded. I lost 1.2 lbs going with a lighter 1x4 and Al mount.
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I remember that thread, pretty great ideas in there. Does the bolt ever unlock itself when fired? Seems unlikely.

I’m definitely going to use the sfar for my cow tag, if I can go.

I weighed this old .308 dpms once. The scope/rings are steel IOR stuff. Heavy.
That gun weighed 11 lbs loaded. I lost 1.2 lbs going with a lighter 1x4 and Al mount.
View attachment 774933
It hasn’t unlocked yet, and I have probably around 25 miles packing it around between both bear seasons and this last week of deer season. I run my reloads on the longer and hotter end of what is possible, so sometimes I have to give it more beans while closing the bolt, but my 5.56 version doesn’t have that problem. No issues with the bolt coming open, or hard time ejecting (since I backed it down a few tenths of a grain).
 

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I remember that thread, pretty great ideas in there. Does the bolt ever unlock itself when fired? Seems unlikely.

I’m definitely going to use the sfar for my cow tag, if I can go.

I weighed this old .308 dpms once. The scope/rings are steel IOR stuff. Heavy.
That gun weighed 11 lbs loaded. I lost 1.2 lbs going with a lighter 1x4 and Al mount.
View attachment 774933
The bolts stay completely locked upon firing until you pull back the charging handle. There are no gas system forces driving the bolt carrier, so it doesn't move until you move it.

The bolt -can- get bumped open while carrying in certain situations, especially rough country, but like Taudisio said, not generally an issue. When I'm packing up a mountain, my rifle is slung on the right side of my pack frame. I do check the bolt periodically to make sure it's not bumped open. Not something I've seen for a while, but a habit I've developed.
 
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