Suppressor wait times

[SloppyJ]

On a podcast when e-file started back up they explained the ATF had a total of twelve people for this work.

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There's more than that since the amnesty pistol brace fiasco. You can check the posted approvals and see how many reviewers there are now.

 

[rsltid13]

Had 2 submitted 1/10, 1 approved 9/1 other one still pending

 

[5811]

Had 2 submitted 1/10, 1 approved 9/1 other one still pending

Hopefully you got the one you wanted first. Were they on the same trust or individual?

 

[ScreamingPotato]

The way things are going the AFT is shutting down gun shops all over for nitpicky paperwork errors and made up excuses. I don't blame SC for sending certified to keep a verifyable record and doing everything in their power to be overly compliant.

 

[atmat]

The way things are going the AFT is shutting down gun shops all over for nitpicky paperwork errors and made up excuses.

This is the first I’ve heard this. Can you share any source?

 

[ScreamingPotato]

This is the first I’ve heard this. Can you share any source?

There's been dozens, all over the normal "gun pages" where have you been?

It even auto-completes in Google search when I went there to dig one up for you.

NRA-ILA | ATF Targeting FFLs for License Revocation

At the direction of the Biden administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) appears to be revoking the licenses of firearm dealers for even minor paperwork violations.

www.nraila.org

Gun Store Shutdowns Spike 500 Percent Under 'Zero Tolerance' For Typos

Firearm license revocations for retailers have increased greatly, and overzealous inspectors risk retailers' cooperation with law enforcement.

thefederalist.com

Lee Williams, an independent investigative reporter specializing in covering firearms, revealed that ATF once revoked the licenses of federal firearms licensees (FFLs) at a rate of about 40 each year. “But, in the 11 months since Joe Biden declared war on ‘rogue gun dealers,’ the ATF has revoked 273 FFLs — an increase of more than 500%,” Williams reported. “However, rather than targeting the true rogues, Biden’s ATF is revoking FFLs for the most minor of paperwork errors, which were never a concern for the ATF until Biden weaponized the agency.”

That’s due to the Biden administration’s “zero tolerance” inspection policy. That means inspectors are revoking federal firearms licenses for even minor clerical errors that previously would warrant a warning letter.


ATF has the authority to revoke licenses for even these minor clerical errors but used to be more interested in compliance. That changed under the Biden administration and the Department of Justice (DOJ) led by Attorney General Merrick Garland. National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) is providing retailers with guidance to be prepared for these inspections.

 

[Go West Old Man]

• Purchased 12/29/22
• e form submitted 1/10/23 (they didn’t like my
first picture at the lgs or something)
• Approved 8/29/23

Edit: amended to an existing Trust

 

[Mtndreamer]

Submitted the second time 2-25-23 approved and picked up today 9-1-23

 

[Oregonhuntrboi]

Submitted the second time 2-25-23 approved and picked up today 9-1-23

Man happy for you! But super frustrating that I’m 12/19 and still haven’t got it,Non trust.

 

[rsltid13]

Hopefully you got the one you wanted first. Were they on the same trust or individual?

Yeah the most important one came first. Both in single shot trusts

 

[atmat]

There's been dozens, all over the normal "gun pages" where have you been?

It even auto-completes in Google search when I went there to dig one up for you.

NRA-ILA | ATF Targeting FFLs for License Revocation

At the direction of the Biden administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) appears to be revoking the licenses of firearm dealers for even minor paperwork violations.

www.nraila.org

Gun Store Shutdowns Spike 500 Percent Under 'Zero Tolerance' For Typos

Firearm license revocations for retailers have increased greatly, and overzealous inspectors risk retailers' cooperation with law enforcement.

thefederalist.com

I don’t hang out on any gun pages. But thank you for the sources! I learned something new.

 

[4090Sharps]

I'm going to be sad watching my oldest outstanding application overtaking the wait for the approval before it

 

[Bubbadoyle]

I'd like to ask a question to someone that has a little more background than most. Why do you think that we are seeing plenty of 60-90 day form 4 approvals all of the sudden? It obviously strikes a chord with a lot of people who have been waiting 200+ days. Seems logical to start at the back of the stack and work forward but there has to be a reason. Thanks!

200 days? I’m sitting at 314 and counting on two. While I’m happy for those getting them in sub 100 days It’s terribly frustrating watching it happen while I’m at four times the wait of some of those.


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[Bluefish]

200 days? I’m sitting at 314 and counting on two. While I’m happy for those getting them in sub 100 days It’s terribly frustrating watching it happen while I’m at four times the wait of some of those.


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It appears they may be adding people and then giving them applications that are newer instead of redistributing all the older ones. Or simply gaming the system to say that waits are getting to be less by approving a bunch of newer applications. Take your pick.
agree that it’s disheartening to see sub 100 day approvals and have several that are double that. I got lucky on a shop closing so I have one can for this upcoming season, but would like to have the first can I bought approved before hunting.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

200 days? I’m sitting at 314 and counting on two. While I’m happy for those getting them in sub 100 days It’s terribly frustrating watching it happen while I’m at four times the wait of some of those.


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For informational purposes, are you by chance up there in age and/or have moved a lot or had a lot of different jobs? I know it's silly to try to logically explain anything a gov agency does but I'm wondering if there's any sort of pattern.

 

[Lone063018]

Mine was 10 months to the day from the time the application was submitted to it being on my door step.

 

[atmat]

I sent a bunch of emails out this morning to various ATF/NFA addresses. Doubtful anything will come of it, but guess we’ll see!

 

[4090Sharps]

I sent a bunch of emails out this morning to various ATF/NFA addresses. Doubtful anything will come of it, but guess we’ll see!

Keep us posted!

 

[HandgunHTR]

I sent a bunch of emails out this morning to various ATF/NFA addresses. Doubtful anything will come of it, but guess we’ll see!

Do you want to end up on a list? Cuz that is how you end up on a list.

 

[atmat]

Do you want to end up on a list? Cuz that is how you end up on a list.

I was polite!