Senate vote public lands sale

[HighUintas]

I emailed my reps, which includes Mike Lee. I had to fight the urge to use profanity and insults.

 

[MeatInTheFreezer]

Calling all Coloradans - you need to send emails to the following people;

[email protected]

[email protected]


Here is what I said;

I am emailing to ask you to OPPOSE ANY PROPOSAL TO SELL PUBLIC LANDS. These lands provide irreplaceable wildlife habitat, recreation opportunities and perpetual economic benefit to local communities. I am an avid user of public lands and oppose any ideas or proposals to sell them. The voice of the people is NEVER TO SELL PUBLIC lands, whether it be National Forest or BLM land.

If we fast forward in time, we will all regret selling public land for a quick money making endeavor. Please do not be on the wrong side of these decisions.

 

[Poser]

Calling all Coloradans - you need to send emails to the following people;

[email protected]

[email protected]


Here is what I said;

I am emailing to ask you to OPPOSE ANY PROPOSAL TO SELL PUBLIC LANDS. These lands provide irreplaceable wildlife habitat, recreation opportunities and perpetual economic benefit to local communities. I am an avid user of public lands and oppose any ideas or proposals to sell them. The voice of the people is NEVER TO SELL PUBLIC lands, whether it be National Forest or BLM land.

If we fast forward in time, we will all regret selling public land for a quick money making endeavor. Please do not be on the wrong side of these decisions.

done.

 

[BowBaboon]

[email protected]

I'm not from Colorado so I don't know the ins and outs of your political sphere, but the Colorado legislature website states that Lundeen resigned on 6/9/2025.

 

[Macintosh]

This lays out many of the problems with this, even for people who arent opposed to some land transfers. Worth the read imo.

Three Million Acres For Sale - Eastmans' Official Blog | Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk Hunting and Bowhunting Magazine | Eastmans' Hunting Journals

David Willms - Associate Vice President for Public Lands Before joining the National W

blog.eastmans.com

 

[sivart]

when is the vote?

 

[MeatInTheFreezer]

I'm not from Colorado so I don't know the ins and outs of your political sphere, but the Colorado legislature website states that Lundeen resigned on 6/9/2025.

Thank you.

 

[MeatInTheFreezer]

This is the map. Holy crap.

[UPDATE] This Map Shows The 250+ Million Acres of Public Land that Could Be Sold Under New Bill

Editor's Note: Since this article was first published, the Senate has amended the original version of this legislation to allow to sale of federal lands under grazing permits. That changed added over 130 million acres to the original total. So, the original estimation we published was 120 million...

www.themeateater.com

 

[MeatInTheFreezer]

Find your Colorado Senator here:

All Senators | Colorado General Assembly

leg.colorado.gov

 

[MSmiley]

Those are state senators. You need to contact US senators. Colorado -> Michael Bennet, John Hickenlooper

 

[Swamp Fox]

This lays out many of the problems with this, even for people who arent opposed to some land transfers. Worth the read imo.

Three Million Acres For Sale - Eastmans' Official Blog | Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk Hunting and Bowhunting Magazine | Eastmans' Hunting Journals

David Willms - Associate Vice President for Public Lands Before joining the National W

blog.eastmans.com

From the blog post:

Several maps are circulating online depicting lands that could be eligible for sale. These maps almost certainly contain errors, but they are a good starting point since the author of the public land sale provision did not provide any maps of his own depicting lands eligible for disposal.


I love this. It's a reflection of this whole thread, and others elsewhere.

I always like starting off my opinion-making/decision-making process with info that almost certainly contains errors.

 

[WaWox]

From the blog post:

Several maps are circulating online depicting lands that could be eligible for sale. These maps almost certainly contain errors, but they are a good starting point since the author of the public land sale provision did not provide any maps of his own depicting lands eligible for disposal.


I love this. It's a reflection of this whole thread, and others elsewhere.

I always like starting off my opinion-making/decision-making process with info that almost certainly contains errors.

What's the insinuation here? That the errors are so bad that we should withhold judgement?

The law as written is extremely ambigious so any map devised would be just a guess until potentially a dozen or more lawsuits and administrative decisions nail down what any of the improvised and imprecise lingo in the bill actually "means"

This is how most laws in thr US work -- congress writes something vague, agencies interpret it, get sued, courts settle it on something concrete.

But that doesn't mean we can't determine that this is a terrible bill BEFORE we have had a half dozen lawsuits and 2 million out of 3 million acres already sold ...

 

[Gila]

 

[Idaboy]

From the blog post:

Several maps are circulating online depicting lands that could be eligible for sale. These maps almost certainly contain errors, but they are a good starting point since the author of the public land sale provision did not provide any maps of his own depicting lands eligible for disposal.


I love this. It's a reflection of this whole thread, and others elsewhere.

I always like starting off my opinion-making/decision-making process with info that almost certainly contains errors.

Please explain, what errors are you referring to

 

[Macintosh]

From the blog post:

Several maps are circulating online depicting lands that could be eligible for sale. These maps almost certainly contain errors, but they are a good starting point since the author of the public land sale provision did not provide any maps of his own depicting lands eligible for disposal.


I love this. It's a reflection of this whole thread, and others elsewhere.

I always like starting off my opinion-making/decision-making process with info that almost certainly contains errors.

In large part, thats the whole point. NO ONE knows exactly what it will/wont contain, including the bill’s authors. Yet its being decided in a fast-tracked process that circumvents public input and the existing process for doing this (there is already a process for public land transfer), and contains a lot of squishy language that seems designed specifically to allow an anything-goes approach to what the land would be used for and who would get it. The speed of this process prevents doing an exact catalog of every inch of land without error, and its highly questionable if that’s even possible in the first place with such vague descriptions of what would be allowed, etc.

The POINT of that is that even many of the folks that think limited transfer would be beneficial are making it clear that this needs more clarity and more process before we irrevocably sell off an irreplaceable asset via a fast-tracked process that doesnt allow a robust debate on the topic.

 

[NDGuy]

Canned response from Kevin Cramer the bootlicker...didn't even mention what my message was about.

Thank you for contacting me to express your view regarding the Fiscal Year 2025 budget. I appreciate hearing from you.

On February 21, 2025, I joined my Senate colleagues in passing the Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget Resolution by a vote of 52-40. This was the first step in the expedited budget process, known as budget reconciliation, setting the parameters for Congress to craft and pass a budget. On February 25, 2025, the House of Representatives passed its version of the FY25 Budget Resolution by a vote of 217-215.

On April 5, 2025, I joined my Senate colleagues in passing our amendment to the FY25 Budget Resolution from the House of Representatives by a vote of 51-48. The amended resolution authorizes $1.5 trillion in additional tax cuts; adds Senate committee instructions and preserves those from House committees; creates savings floors to maximize the ability of Congress to cut wasteful spending; provides a debt limit extension into 2027; and sets top-line spending levels. On April 10, 2025, the House of Representatives passed the Senate's amended FY25 Budget Resolution by a vote of 216-214. Both chambers of Congress passed identical budget resolutions, unlocking the reconciliation process to deliver President Trump's America First agenda.

The Budget Resolution's passage exemplifies Senate Republicans working together to deliver on the promises made to Americans. It will help make generational investments to bolster national defense and border security, unleash American energy dominance, cut waste and unnecessary spending, and prevent the largest tax hike in American history. This brings us one step closer to creating opportunity and bringing certainty to North Dakota families, businesses, and markets.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please know I value your input as I serve you in the United States Senate. To receive the most up-to-date information on my positions, I encourage you to sign up for my email newsletter at cramer.senate.gov.

 

[CAH]

Canned response from Kevin Cramer the bootlicker...didn't even mention what my message was about.

Thank you for contacting me to express your view regarding the Fiscal Year 2025 budget. I appreciate hearing from you.

On February 21, 2025, I joined my Senate colleagues in passing the Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget Resolution by a vote of 52-40. This was the first step in the expedited budget process, known as budget reconciliation, setting the parameters for Congress to craft and pass a budget. On February 25, 2025, the House of Representatives passed its version of the FY25 Budget Resolution by a vote of 217-215.

On April 5, 2025, I joined my Senate colleagues in passing our amendment to the FY25 Budget Resolution from the House of Representatives by a vote of 51-48. The amended resolution authorizes $1.5 trillion in additional tax cuts; adds Senate committee instructions and preserves those from House committees; creates savings floors to maximize the ability of Congress to cut wasteful spending; provides a debt limit extension into 2027; and sets top-line spending levels. On April 10, 2025, the House of Representatives passed the Senate's amended FY25 Budget Resolution by a vote of 216-214. Both chambers of Congress passed identical budget resolutions, unlocking the reconciliation process to deliver President Trump's America First agenda.

The Budget Resolution's passage exemplifies Senate Republicans working together to deliver on the promises made to Americans. It will help make generational investments to bolster national defense and border security, unleash American energy dominance, cut waste and unnecessary spending, and prevent the largest tax hike in American history. This brings us one step closer to creating opportunity and bringing certainty to North Dakota families, businesses, and markets.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please know I value your input as I serve you in the United States Senate. To receive the most up-to-date information on my positions, I encourage you to sign up for my email newsletter at cramer.senate.gov.

Well that is incredibly disappointing…. Hopefully Hoeven will have something better to say.

 

[NDGuy]

Hopefully Hoeven will have something better to say.

Hoeven is even more of a bootlicker than Cramer, I expect nothing from him or Fedorchak

 

[StuckInTheEast]

Reading articles last few days it seems the big gripe, and rightfully so, is how open to interpretation this section of the Bill is.
Way too vague for what the implications could be IMHO .
Presently being on tour of southwest Wyoming and the few folks I've talked too here...none so far were even aware of the issue...a couple being hunters. I informed the best i could and advised they look deeper for themselves. I realize this is a tiny sample, but its concerning. GET THE WORD OUT!
Hopefully the sirens get sounded and it looks like they are from the large volume of articles popping up last couple days.
The devil is always in the details or lack there of with Government...and there is alot lacking here presently.
Im all for swapping or disposal of small urban parcels of fed/state land that are serving as nothing but a hinderence to housing/business/industrial development in URBAN areas. There are means to do so on the books already though. As usual, government refuses to use the sensible tools/laws it already has to make positive change and instead seeks to circumvent them for what are certainly corrupt, self serving reasons.
This Mike Lee guy seems like a total snake in the grass...the more I read on him the more I hope he goes away in the shortest order possible.
Ive emailed my reps with the expected canned responses returned. Its pretty disgusting how so many 'conservatives' are just falling in line with the POTUS right now and either are too afraid, corrupt or ignorant to stand their ground and listen to their constituents.
...hoping common sense and wisdom prevail...well aware it likely wont.
Feel like Im living in a sleep deprived bad dream here lately. Wondering if I'll live to see the first annual Hunger Games take place on some domed in chunk of public ground we used to hunt elk and dodge grizzly bears on back in the day........that last part is sarcastic....mostly

 

[packgoatguy]

Here is an easy way to share one's voice on the matter, RMEF has it set up to add your address and they fill in the rest it looks like.

Issues & Advocacy

Effortlessly contact your state and federal lawmakers to make your voice heard on issues that impact wildlife and elk country.

www.rmef.org