Senate vote public lands sale

[chanson_roland]

Saw this article this morning. Trigger warning: its the Huffington Post. Posting because its a mainstream rag discussing the issue. Article also features a Meateater tweet. Hopefully the message is getting out.

Conservatives Turn On GOP Senator Over Plan To Sell Off Millions Of Acres Of Public Land

Utah Sen. Mike Lee's proposal has united the left and right -- against him.

www.huffpost.com

Conservatives Turn On GOP Senator Over Plan To Sell Off Millions Of Acres Of Public Land

“I don’t think it’s clear that we would even get substantial housing as a result of this,” Sen. Martin Heinrich (N.M.), the energy committee’s ranking Democrat, told the Associated Press. “What I know would happen is people would lose access to places they know and care about and that drive our Western economies.”

Meanwhile, Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke (Mont.) has also spoken out against the plan.
“I have said from day one I would not support a bill that sells public lands,” he wrote Wednesday on X. “I am still a no on the senate reconciliation bill that sells public lands.”

I posted earlier that I was hoping it would go this way. Mike Lee has become the "face" of the public land sale. Coupled with his tweets about the murder of the MN state rep, and he's liable to get cut loose by a bunch of reps and Senators. D's and R's will unite against him because he's now pissed off people in both parties. The more this becomes a "Mike Lee thing" the less likely it is to stay in the bill.

 

[Bearded Bowhunter]

Apologize if this has already been said suggested, but alongside sending my opposition to both of my Senators, I also reached out to the US House Reps in my state to voice my disapproval and ask them to pressure their Senate colleagues on this issue as well.

Figure it can't hurt.

 

[Rifleman86]

I posted earlier that I was hoping it would go this way. Mike Lee has become the "face" of the public land sale. Coupled with his tweets about the murder of the MN state rep, and he's liable to get cut loose by a bunch of reps and Senators. D's and R's will unite against him because he's now pissed off people in both parties. The more this becomes a "Mike Lee thing" the less likely it is to stay in the bill.

Chat GPT and Grok say 75-85% of removal. Not that that’s a license to rest on our laurels, but this is increasingly becoming the political pariah it should be.

I think you are right, and I highly doubt Mike Lee stays in office after this next term.

I firmly believe this is already going to have an impact on the midterms. If it stays in the bill, that impact will linger much longer.

 

[FuddRucker]

Chat GPT and Grok say 75-85% of removal. Not that that’s a license to rest on our laurels, but this is increasingly becoming the political pariah it should be.

I think you are right, and I highly doubt Mike Lee stays in office after this next term.

I firmly believe this is already going to have an impact on the midterms. If it stays in the bill, that impact will linger much longer.

I'm not so sure he'll be out of a Senate job even after all this is said and done. People have short memories. He seems too useful for rich folks and the way campaign financing and voter messaging works these days I would not be surprised to see Utahns put him in again.

That said, this whole land sale business becoming a Mike Lee issue might leave a strong enough taste in their mouths that the voters don't forget.

 

[Rifleman86]

I'm not so sure he'll be out of a Senate job even after all this is said and done. People have short memories. He seems too useful for rich folks and the way campaign financing and voter messaging works these days I would not be surprised to see Utahns put him in again.

That said, this whole land sale business becoming a Mike Lee issue might leave a strong enough taste in their mouths that the voters don't forget.

Not wrong. I’m certainly not going to count my chickens that he’s a goner at this point, but I think Montana was simply ahead of the rest of the mountain west GOP on this issue. People, especially folks in the west are quickly seeing what Mike Lee is trying to do for what it is. Thank God for free speech platforms on the internet.

 

[P dog]

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/0...-swaths-of-wyoming-public-lands-wont-be-sold/

 

[hutty]

Moreover, there are already mechanisms in place for the BLM and Forest Service to sell or trade off parcels of land, which make the bill’s proposals redundant in that regard, he said.

In an article set to be published in the Wyoming Law Review, Semerad cites the Federal Land and Management Policy Act.

That allows the BLM to sell lands that meet certain conditions, such as a tract’s location or other characteristics making “difficult and uneconomic to manage as part of public lands,” according to his article.

 

[nettereo16]

I posted earlier that I was hoping it would go this way. Mike Lee has become the "face" of the public land sale. Coupled with his tweets about the murder of the MN state rep, and he's liable to get cut loose by a bunch of reps and Senators. D's and R's will unite against him because he's now pissed off people in both parties. The more this becomes a "Mike Lee thing" the less likely it is to stay in the bill.

While I mostly agree with you and certainly hope it isolates Mike Lee, I found it very concerning hearing Trump speak about the land sales yesterday. A lot of the party will follow his lead to avoid facing his wrath and being isolated themselves. (EDIT: This clip is from Aug 2024 and I fell for it being something new)
Keep making those calls/emails and get your friends to as well in different states!

 

[el_jefe_pescado]

I sent my message to Daines and Sheehy. What a mess.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Regulations pertaining to NR tag allocations can be reversed. Land sales won’t be reversed.

Keep your foot on the gas and keep calling. A fiend of mine in Utah said Mike Lee is getting hammered. Keep firing away at everyone you can, repeatedly. Call and leave respectful voicemails.

 

[Rifleman86]

While I mostly agree with you and certainly hope it isolates Mike Lee, I found it very concerning hearing Trump speak about the land sales yesterday. A lot of the party will follow his lead to avoid facing his wrath and being isolated themselves.
Keep making those calls/emails and get your friends to as well in different states!

If you are talking about the clip of Trump that Mike Lee reposted, that was from quite awhile ago while Trump was speaking in Vegas, not yesterday IIRC.

It was purposefully deceptive. Shows how desperate Lee is getting on this to try and shore up support.

 

[nettereo16]

If you are talking about the clip of Trump that Mike Lee reposted, that was from quite awhile ago while Trump was speaking in Vegas, not yesterday IIRC.

It was purposefully deceptive. Shows how desperate Lee is getting on this to try and shore up support.

You are right. I oddly just saw a twitter "community note" that this was an old clip and came back to revise my post. Sorry to spread old clips as new and that is a relief it's not something Trump is focused on currently.

 

[wind gypsy]

John Thune, like him or not is an avid hunter apparently. He is likely to be sympathetic to our opposition to this, and if not that, will understand how much of a political fumble it is for the GOP to piss off a bunch of hunters that usually lean more to the right.

Big advocate of SD selling out for the put and take non-native ditch parrots from what I gather.

 

[wind gypsy]

How much public land is in Minnesota?

a bunch.

 

[Gila]

Big advocate of SD selling out for the put and take non-native ditch parrots from what I gather.

That is where he was before he became Majority leader of the senate. His job is to punch the Bill through no matter what. Some people don’t realize how invasive pheasants are. They are really just fat roadrunners that act like cuckoo birds. They devastate Grouse nesting areas. The sharpies can adapt to a certain degree by nesting in less suitable habitat. The prairie chickens and sage grouse can’t do that. They need very specific nesting habitat to keep the broods alive.

 

[ODB]

Risch is apparently feeling some heat and swapping to a no.

Idaho's Risch comes out against public land sell-off

Proposal to sell federal land is provision in 'Big Beautiful Bill' that U.S. Senate is considering

www.lmtribune.com

 

[IdahoBeav]

Risch is apparently feeling some heat and swapping to a no.

Idaho's Risch comes out against public land sell-off

Proposal to sell federal land is provision in 'Big Beautiful Bill' that U.S. Senate is considering

www.lmtribune.com

Well, that's good news.

 

[Customweld]

Risch is apparently feeling some heat and swapping to a no.

Idaho's Risch comes out against public land sell-off

Proposal to sell federal land is provision in 'Big Beautiful Bill' that U.S. Senate is considering

www.lmtribune.com

That's good to see. I wasn't getting a real good read on where he was going to land (no pun intended).

 

[KurtR]

That is where he was before he became Majority leader of the senate. His job is to punch the Bill through no matter what. Some people don’t realize how invasive pheasants are. They are really just fat roadrunners that act like cuckoo birds. They devastate Grouse nesting areas. The sharpies can adapt to a certain degree by nesting in less suitable habitat. The prairie chickens and sage grouse can’t do that. They need very specific nesting habitat to keep the broods alive.

Pheasant wreck grouse nest that’s a new one. Crazy I shoot them side by side in the fall

 

[Poser]

Risch is apparently feeling some heat and swapping to a no.

Idaho's Risch comes out against public land sell-off

Proposal to sell federal land is provision in 'Big Beautiful Bill' that U.S. Senate is considering

www.lmtribune.com

This is good news indeed.