Revic BLR10b Rangefinding Binoculars

[Formidilosus]

Would you still say that if you weren't carrying separate alpha 15s for tripod use? I.e. for those using only 10x42 for both handheld and tripod glassing, first/last light glassing, etc, you'd be okay with the pure optical performance of the Revic vs say a 10x42 SLC?

Yep. I want nothing to do with separate RF and binos.

 

[Mountainrancher]

Yep. I want nothing to do with separate RF and binos.

Form I’ve seen you mention this before and make the statement about using bushnells that range over separate units. What’s your reasoning behind this?

 

[Formidilosus]

Form I’ve seen you mention this before and make the statement about using bushnells that range over separate units. What’s your reasoning behind this?

Because 8-10x handhelds are for finding game and helping to determine base line shooting decisions at short to medium ranges- not for detailed examinations and long range. Mid level glass absolutely has enough resolution, clarity, contrast and brightness for what a 8x or 10x big game bino is for. The time reduction between seeing an animal and getting a firing solution is greatly reduced with bino RF combos. So much so, that while a Swaro NL Pure 8 or 10x offers a phenomenal view- very pleasing to look at, and certainly can see more detail- the amount or percentage of times that the increased resolution will make the difference in killing an animal or not, pales in the percentage of time that game that could be killed due to the greatly reduced shot process that combined units give you.
15x binos and spotters are for gawking at animals- 8-1x binos are for killing animals.


Having said that, one can get great optics and great to good range-finding performance now.

 

[Formidilosus]

Form I’ve seen you mention this before and make the statement about using bushnells that range over separate units. What’s your reasoning behind this?

A shorter way to say it- binos, especially RF binos are apart of the shot process, not solely the observation process.

 

[Mountainrancher]

Because 8-10x handhelds are for finding game and helping to determine base line shooting decisions at short to medium ranges- not for detailed examinations and long range. Mid level glass absolutely has enough resolution, clarity, contrast and brightness for what a 8x or 10x big game bino is for. The time reduction between seeing an animal and getting a firing solution is greatly reduced with bino RF combos. So much so, that while a Swaro NL Pure 8 or 10x offers a phenomenal view- very pleasing to look at, and certainly can see more detail- the amount or percentage of times that the increased resolution will make the difference in killing an animal or not, pales in the percentage of time that game that could be killed due to the greatly reduced shot process that combined units give you.
15x binos and spotters are for gawking at animals- 8-1x binos are for killing animals.


Having said that, one can get great optics and great to good range-finding performance now.

Is it a requirement that the ranging binos also have a ballistic solver to give an instant solution? Seems like it would be but I didn’t know bushnell offered anything that does that

 

[Formidilosus]

Is it a requirement that the ranging binos also have a ballistic solver to give an instant solution?

Nope. Especially if you are using mils. Bushnells are not the RF binos to get.

 

[MuleyFever]

Because 8-10x handhelds are for finding game and helping to determine base line shooting decisions at short to medium ranges- not for detailed examinations and long range. Mid level glass absolutely has enough resolution, clarity, contrast and brightness for what a 8x or 10x big game bino is for. The time reduction between seeing an animal and getting a firing solution is greatly reduced with bino RF combos. So much so, that while a Swaro NL Pure 8 or 10x offers a phenomenal view- very pleasing to look at, and certainly can see more detail- the amount or percentage of times that the increased resolution will make the difference in killing an animal or not, pales in the percentage of time that game that could be killed due to the greatly reduced shot process that combined units give you.
15x binos and spotters are for gawking at animals- 8-1x binos are for killing animals.


Having said that, one can get great optics and great to good range-finding performance now.

I agree with this. My question is what is your process for locating and shooting game pertaining to what tool for what part of the job? People fawn over "glass quality". This has a lot to do with sitting behind binos and not getting eye fatigue and picking apart terrain. I think this is where guys want Alpha glass.

If you are personally willing to sacrifice glass quality for a RF unit what are you using for the long act of glassing and looking for animals where detail matters? Are you solely using a quality spotter to glass or are you willing to use, for example, the Bushnell to spot game and follow up with a spotter or high mag quality binos?

 

[4th_point]

I'm looking forward to the day that we have multiple product options for LRF plus stabilization in binocs. Each technology on their own is great, but having it all in one would be a gamechanger to me. Stabilizing the optical and laser systems might be a bigger challenge than I realize though.

 

[Formidilosus]

I agree with this. My question is what is your process for locating and shooting game pertaining to what tool for what part of the job? People fawn over "glass quality". This has a lot to do with sitting behind binos and not getting eye fatigue and picking apart terrain. I think this is where guys want Alpha glass.

If you are personally willing to sacrifice glass quality for a RF unit what are you using for the long act of glassing and looking for animals where detail matters? Are you solely using a quality spotter to glass or are you willing to use, for example, the Bushnell to spot game and follow up with a spotter or high mag quality binos?

General/broad glassing is handheld 8’s or 10x’s. Any detail glassing is done with tripod mounted Swaro or Meopta 15x’s. Having said that as much as most won’t want to admit, tripod mounting something in the Vortex Fury 5000 level of glass can and does offer excellent spotting.

 

[tpicou]

Unlike the Sig 10k these have usable glass for hunting. Like Form said, the laser is very strong with a quick solution. By far the best RF binos in this chassis.


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My wallet hates you and @Formidilosus for saying these are good and Gunwerks/Revic for making them. I’ve been looking for a rf bino that works as well as yall say these do. That being said, I have a couple questions:

1) What’s y’all’s take on durability and working in conditions with fine dust/sand? Adequate if I’m not a jackass?

2) 5yr warranty on electronics is whatever and understandable because they are electronics. Do y’all think Revic is going to support their products with frequent firmware & app updates etc? I don’t have experience with them or how they handled the PMR 428.

Thanks !

 

[JGRaider]

General/broad glassing is handheld 8’s or 10x’s. Any detail glassing is done with tripod mounted Swaro or Meopta 15x’s. Having said that as much as most won’t want to admit, tripod mounting something in the Vortex Fury 5000 level of glass can and does offer excellent spotting.

Agree 100%. I used the Fury AB mule deer and whitetail hunting for 3 months last year, and an aoudad hunt in wide open West Texas about a month ago. The Fury's performed extremely well glassing from a tripod, ranging everything I tried out past 3000 yds, as well as spitting out solutions at any range. They are keepers, for sure.

 

[Formidilosus]

1) What’s y’all’s take on durability and working in conditions with fine dust/sand? Adequate if I’m not a jackass?

Being that our use is a month on one pair, and a couple weeks so far on another- I can not say about durability or longevity. The other binos that share the same chassis have generally be durable, and no issue with sand or dust.

2) 5yr warranty on electronics is whatever and understandable because they are electronics. Do y’all think Revic is going to support their products with frequent firmware & app updates etc? I don’t have experience with them or how they handled the PMR 428.

Frequent is relative. It isn’t IPhone constant updates as their reallly isn’t much to change. The ballistics work correctly.

 

[DreaminofMT6X6s]

I’ve had swaro el range with TA was very unimpressed especially considering what I had paid. They aren’t not a ballistic solution nor was the ranging that effective. These sound fantastic and I can live with less then exceptional glass considering what it is that these actually do

 

[JGRaider]

I wouldn't buy a Gunwerks if they were the only bino/rf on the planet.

 

[rratzlaff1490]

I wouldn't buy a Gunwerks if they were the only bino/rf on the planet.

Why so?

 

[rratzlaff1490]

@Formidilosus the gunwerks revics or keep my 10x50 ELs and purchase the Leica 2800.com ?? Curious your thoughts outside of having two separate devices. I like the idea of better gauging shots then having slightly better glass but I also REALLY like my ELs

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus the gunwerks revics or keep my 10x50 ELs and purchase the Leica 2800.com ?? Curious your thoughts outside of having two separate devices. I like the idea of better gauging shots then having slightly better glass but I also REALLY like my ELs

I addressed that in earlier in the thread. There is almost no situation I would choose a separate RF and bino.

 

[wnelson14]

I addressed that in earlier in the thread. There is almost no situation I would choose a separate RF and bino.

Even for archery ?

 

[Formidilosus]

Even for archery ?

No, for archery specifically separate works great.

 

[CMP70306]

I wouldn't buy a Gunwerks if they were the only bino/rf on the planet.

Do you not like the BR4 or do you just not like the company? I’ve had nothing but good results with my BR4 and if I was in the market for binos I’d definitely be giving these a look.