Our new Secretary of the Interior

[gelton]

Since you like nicknames so much, how about Comrade Trump? Helped into office by Russian intelligence, and preparing to sell off your birthright to multi-national oil interests.


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"helped into office by Russian Intelligence" - "Preparing to sell your birthright to multinational oil interests" Could we get some sources here? Or are you relying on the Washington Posts article who says it is an assumption but there is no clear evidence. Or are you believing the alphabet agency that told us Saddam Hussain had WMD's and had ties to 911, that says there is a "consensus" but provides no evidence?

Did you read the emails released by WikiLeaks? And if you have, did you decide that the content of the emails weren't important but how they got released WAS?

Keep voting democrat and see how far that gets you. I thought for sure Colorado sportsmen and gun owners would have learned something by now. How is that mag limit working out for ya?

From the WaPo just last week - "The Washington Post on Nov. 24 published a story on the work of four sets of researchers who have examined what they say are Russian propaganda efforts to undermine American democracy and interests. One of them was PropOrNot, a group that insists on public anonymity, which issued a report identifying more than 200 websites that, in its view, wittingly or unwittingly published or echoed Russian propaganda. A number of those sites have objected to being included on PropOrNot’s list, and some of the sites, as well as others not on the list, have publicly challenged the group’s methodology and conclusions. The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot’s findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so. Since publication of The Post’s story, PropOrNot has removed some sites from its list."

"And then the summary:

1. Announce "consensus" (not unanimous) "conclusion" based in circumstantial evidence now, before the Electoral College vote, then write a report with actual details due by Jan 20.
2. Put a proven liar in charge of writing the report on Russian hacking.
3. Fail to mention that not one of the leaked DNC or Podesta emails has been shown to be inauthentic. So the supposed Russian hacking simply revealed truth about Hillary, DNC, and MSM collusion and corruption.
4. Fail to mention that if hacking was done by or for US government to stop Hillary, blaming the Russians would be the most likely disinformation used by US agencies.
5. Expect every pro-Hillary lapdog journalist - which is virtually all of them - in America will hyperventilate (Twitter is currently on fire) about this latest fact-free, anti-Trump political stunt for the next nine days."

 

[blicero]

I'm not sure what you want me to do with the giant wall of text that you cut-and-paste from wherever you cut-and-paste stuff from.

As far as Colorado magazine limits, can't say it's been a real hardship not being able to squeeze off 20 shots on a elk before swapping magazines.

As far as Russians, just take a look at the facts and evidence and decide for yourself. Manafort, Flynn, DNC emails, etc.

As far as selling off public lands, look at the people Trump is staffing his cabinet with, the stated position of the Republican Party, CEO of Exxon as Secretary of State, pro-land sale Secretary of Interior, etc, and decide for yourself.

If you instead want to believe that Democrats are secretly running international child sex trafficking rings in the basement of a pizza shop, feel free.


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[mtwarden]

holy buckets! now back to our regularly scheduled programming..........

selling/transferring federal public lands is almost always a losing proposition for sportsman and recreationists; it's something everyone should be keeping a very close eye on

 

[gelton]

I'm not sure what you want me to do with the giant wall of text that you cut-and-paste from wherever you cut-and-paste stuff from.

As far as Colorado magazine limits, can't say it's been a real hardship not being able to squeeze off 20 shots on a elk before swapping magazines.

As far as Russians, just take a look at the facts and evidence and decide for yourself. Manafort, Flynn, DNC emails, etc.

As far as selling off public lands, look at the people Trump is staffing his cabinet with, the stated position of the Republican Party, CEO of Exxon as Secretary of State, pro-land sale Secretary of Interior, etc, and decide for yourself.

If you instead want to believe that Democrats are secretly running international child sex trafficking rings in the basement of a pizza shop, feel free.


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What facts and evidence re: Russians? No facts or evidence has been released.

Dont kill the messenger address the message - CNN conspires with DNC releasing debate questions early. The MSM in general colluding with the Clintons. Chelsea Clinton worried about kickbacks re: Clinton Foundation. John Podesta attending Spirit Cooking rituals with known satanist. Those are all facts. No one has challenged the validity of those emails and people were fired over them.

And no one mentioned a child trafficking ring but if you look at the code words for child trafficking on the FBI's website there are plenty of innuendos there as well....but unlike you, I wont claim innuendo as being fact.

Again, the devil himself could have released those emails, I am not here to judge the devil, but I can judge the content of those emails. The MSM is just butt hurt at the fact that they couldnt get the Establishment Candidate that ALL of them wanted to win, in the White House....because Russia...if its not racists that got him in, it has to be Russia. Find a safe space, QUICK.

 

[Violent Hippie]

Thanks again to fellow Roksliders for getting the information out there. I like most Americans have never heard of this McMorris broad but she sounds shady to me. Seems odd that Donnie would speak publicly about public land access (which got me pumped because Ive never heard any other presidential candidate even mention public land) and then turn around and appoint McMorris who has been quoted uttering some disturbing words. My understanding is that a president can appoint whoever they want for the most part which is an opportunity to really put a kick ass individual in there to make our great access and management even better. Why this appointment ? We will probably never know but the president appoints people they trust to give them freedom to sort of govern that section of government (i.e. the interior) while the president can focus of other affairs . This leaves us with McMorris mettling with OUR public lands. I give this appointment a thumbs down.

 

[tipsntails7]

I remember that most left wing folks said gun owners had nothing to worry about when Obama was elected. Now the left wingers are losing their minds before trump has even been sworn in....irony I suppose.

In reality this fight will be fought in congress, but hopefully trump will be a last line of defense for public land. I could see him making a deal on tiny private land locked areas of blm, but not large scale transfers.

Well they were correct for the most part....


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[kicker338]

Ya having to walk is such a bummer. Sorry vehicles belong on the road.

Walking is not a problem, getting a big bull elk out of the woods is a BIG problem.

 

[kicker338]

Yeah man walking is such a bummer...

I'll take that over our timber company and state lands that are increasingly devoid of trees, covered in weeds and cattle and have four wheeler hunters cruising everywhere.

Would sure like to know where this timber company land is, here in Nth. Id. it's private with no trespassing signs and no 4 wheelers either.
Did you say hunters crusing everywhere??? they not there either.

 

[tipsntails7]

Walking is not a problem, getting a big bull elk out of the woods is a BIG problem.

You could probably use your legs for that as well. I understand what your saying but I'm way more in the don't let anything with wheels in camp.


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[TheTone]

Would sure like to know where this timber company land is, here in Nth. Id. it's private with no trespassing signs and no 4 wheelers either.
Did you say hunters crusing everywhere??? they not there either.

Seems like a great reason to keep things public to me. If you want a pile of timber company lands with access look at potlatch lands, take your atv anywhere you want, oh and pay for access how great!

Elk have been getting packed out of North Idaho for generations, its just about buckling down and doing the work, sometimes its hard but that's what we sign up for. You always have the option of not pulling the trigger if you are worried about getting it out.

 

[tipsntails7]

Would sure like to know where this timber company land is, here in Nth. Id. it's private with no trespassing signs and no 4 wheelers either.
Did you say hunters crusing everywhere??? they not there either.

Weyerhaeuser is one of them. They shut out almost everyone and are charging fees for access as well now.


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[JWP58]

Well they were correct for the most part....


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Exactly so what do they have to worry about when it comes to trump. If the great one couldn't force strict gun laws down our throat with a majority in both senate and house surely the dope trump won't be successful in the same situation.

And the Russian talk is laughable, blicero. Just remember the same libs that were crying about the "sanctity " of our voting system when trump said it'd be rigged against him are now saying the exact same thing.....go figure.

 

[blicero]

Exactly so what do they have to worry about when it comes to trump.

You just argued that liberals were correct in telling you not to worry about Obama stealing your guns, so now they'll be wrong by warning you that Trump is positioning his administration to steal your land.

Okey dokey.


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[2ski]

You just argued that liberals were correct in telling you not to worry about Obama stealing your guns, so now they'll be wrong by warning you that Trump is positioning his administration to steal your land.

Okey dokey.


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Yeah. SMH at that one.

It's funny that someone comes to this website, of all places, and complains about lack of roads in the forests.

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[kicker338]

I think there heeds to be some clarification in this discussion of national forest land. 1 trading land, a high school friend of mine works for the forest service on this land trade. As he told me object is to get the small 40 acre type's of land out of forest boundaries, the ones that put up gates on forest service roads blocking access to large chunks of forest service land. They try to trade for land on the edge of forest service land to straighten out the boundaries to get rid of the checker board private land, forest service land. 2 As to road closures, my pet peeve, it get's a little old having a road that's been open for 20yrs. to suddenly have a gate put up, or a sign saying open to forest service personal only. For you guy's that seem to be against atv's which I have, it's not a matter of walking which at 69yrs. old I'le bet I can keep up with most of you younger
guy's and out a lot of you but my day's of packing 50lb plus loads are over. Also here's something for all of you to think about, the forest should be open to everyone right access included ??? My grandson loves hunting with me but he has some limits, having DOWNDS SYNDROME is one. He can't walk long distance, has a very hard time going down the side of a hill and some other limits. We do a lot of 4 wheeler riding which allow's him more places to hunt with me so when it comes to cutting off access to you bet I will fight like a wiled cat for him.

 

[JWP58]

You just argued that liberals were correct in telling you not to worry about Obama stealing your guns, so now they'll be wrong by warning you that Trump is positioning his administration to steal your land.

Okey dokey.


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Ya okie doke...just like your supreme leader...okie doke...

 

[wind gypsy]

I think there heeds to be some clarification in this discussion of national forest land. 1 trading land, a high school friend of mine works for the forest service on this land trade. As he told me object is to get the small 40 acre type's of land out of forest boundaries, the ones that put up gates on forest service roads blocking access to large chunks of forest service land. They try to trade for land on the edge of forest service land to straighten out the boundaries to get rid of the checker board private land, forest service land. 2 As to road closures, my pet peeve, it get's a little old having a road that's been open for 20yrs. to suddenly have a gate put up, or a sign saying open to forest service personal only. For you guy's that seem to be against atv's which I have, it's not a matter of walking which at 69yrs. old I'le bet I can keep up with most of you younger
guy's and out a lot of you but my day's of packing 50lb plus loads are over. Also here's something for all of you to think about, the forest should be open to everyone right access included ??? My grandson loves hunting with me but he has some limits, having DOWNDS SYNDROME is one. He can't walk long distance, has a very hard time going down the side of a hill and some other limits. We do a lot of 4 wheeler riding which allow's him more places to hunt with me so when it comes to cutting off access to you bet I will fight like a wiled cat for him.

I understand that your age and your grandson's disability make having access via road a great enhancement to your experience. I hope that you understand that many of us will fight against motorized access as it can ruin a cornerstone of the western hunting experience - being able to get away from other people.

 

[TheTone]

I hope they sell every piece of land off that will create jobs.

Biggest herd of bulls I've ever saw was 200 yards from our rig floor

Better for my kids to have a stable economy then a two week hunting season that takes 5 years applying for.

As my ancestors said, you can't eat the scenery.

Then again most people don't know how government took over these lands in the first place.

So those people working for federal land management agencies, their jobs don't matter??? If you want your kids to have a stable economy and a good career encourage them to focus on school and get a good education.

 

[mtnkid85]

I see a lot of blind party alignment in here. If this new SOI appointment was made by Clinton or Sanders would you guys who are championing for her causes feel any different?

We have to understand the issue of public land sell off has little to do with the letter in front our representatives names. Putting people like Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers who is for the selling/transferring of our public lands in positions of power will only make our fight more difficult.

 

[mtwarden]

agreed- forget politics (we've had enough of that the last six months!); what's important is that everyone keep a close eye on matters that could effect our recreation areas (and maybe more importantly that of our kids and grandkids)