Gun ban

[*zap*]

I vote to be E

 

[Spike elk]

Good thing that he didn’t have a gun, then, or things could have been much worse.

2 dead, 14 injured in mass shooting at gay club in Norway

A suspect believed to be the lone shooter was placed under arrest shortly following the shooting massacre in Oslo, Norway.

nypost.com

The Chilling True Story of Anders Breivik: The Madman Across the Water

One year ago, a heavily armed man dressed as a police officer appeared on the beach of a youth summer camp in Utøya, Norway. The kids had no way of knowing he was targeting them for the ills of Europe. Then he started shooting. And shooting. As told by the survivors, these are the beat-by-beat...

www.gq.com

 

[scattergun]

^
QED.

 

[Yoder]

How is banning guns from law abiding citizens going to stop murders? We obey the law, I'm guessing it will stop zero murders.

I know that the Australian gun ban gives liberals major chub. Here's a fun fact: There are just as many murders in Australia after the ban. Gun murders were down, but total murders stayed the same. Great job. Now you are safe.

 

[scattergun]

What gun ban? There are still plenty of ‘em in Australia.

 

[displacedtexan]

What gun ban? There are still plenty of ‘em in Australia.

He's probably talking about the one in the mid 90s where they banned semi auto rifles and shotguns for civilian ownership. (Maybe pumps too?)

And apparently ignoring the fact that homicides are down about 50% since then.

#alternativefacts

 

[displacedtexan]

2 dead, 14 injured in mass shooting at gay club in Norway

A suspect believed to be the lone shooter was placed under arrest shortly following the shooting massacre in Oslo, Norway.

nypost.com

The Chilling True Story of Anders Breivik: The Madman Across the Water

One year ago, a heavily armed man dressed as a police officer appeared on the beach of a youth summer camp in Utøya, Norway. The kids had no way of knowing he was targeting them for the ills of Europe. Then he started shooting. And shooting. As told by the survivors, these are the beat-by-beat...

www.gq.com

Yeah, a couple of mass shootings in Norway in the past few years.

Unlike America, famously free of mass shootings because of all the good guys with guns.

 

[isItFallYet]

He's probably talking about the one in the mid 90s where they banned semi auto rifles and shotguns for civilian ownership. (Maybe pumps too?)

And apparently ignoring the fact that homicides are down about 50% since then.

#alternativefacts

So you'd like semis to be banned here too?

 

[displacedtexan]

So you'd like semis to be banned here too?

I didn't say that...

I'm just saying that maybe we should be accurate in our statements.

 

[isItFallYet]

He's probably talking about the one in the mid 90s where they banned semi auto rifles and shotguns for civilian ownership. (Maybe pumps too?)

And apparently ignoring the fact that homicides are down about 50% since then.

#alternativefacts

Well, I guess it depends on which report and study you look at.

This was the first hit on google when I searched for Australia NFA

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/lbrr/archives/cnmcs-plcng/cn32226-eng.pdf

Australia

Following shocking killings in 1996, the Australian gov-
ernment made sweeping changes to the firearm legisla-
tion in 1997. Unfortunately, the recent firearm regula-
tions have not made the streets of Australia any safer.
The total homicide rate, after having remained basically
flat from 1995 to 2001, has now begun climbing again.
The decline in homicide rate in the gun-permissive Unit-
ed States stands out against the trend in Australia.
The divergence between Australia and the United
States is even more apparent with violent crime. While

PUBLIC POLICY SOURCES, NUMBER 71
The Failed Experiment 4 The Fraser Institute
violent crime is decreasing in the United States, it is in-
creasing in Australia. Over the past six years, the over-
all rate of violent crime in Australia has continued to
increase. Robbery and armed robbery rates continue to
rise. Armed robbery has increased 166% nationwide.
The confiscation and destruction of legally owned fire-
arms cost Australian taxpayers at least $500 million.
The costs of the police services bureaucracy, including
the hugely costly infrastructure of the gun registration
system, has increased by $200 million since 1997. And
for what? There has been no visible impact on violent
crime. It is impossible to justify such a massive amount of
the taxpayers’ money for no decrease in crime. For that
kind of tax money, the police could have had more pa-
trol cars, shorter shifts, or maybe even better equipment.
Think of how many lives might have been saved.

 

[displacedtexan]

Well, I guess it depends on which report and study you look at.

This was the first hit on google when I searched for Australia NFA

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/lbrr/archives/cnmcs-plcng/cn32226-eng.pdf

Australia

Following shocking killings in 1996, the Australian gov-
ernment made sweeping changes to the firearm legisla-
tion in 1997. Unfortunately, the recent firearm regula-
tions have not made the streets of Australia any safer.
The total homicide rate, after having remained basically
flat from 1995 to 2001, has now begun climbing again.
The decline in homicide rate in the gun-permissive Unit-
ed States stands out against the trend in Australia.
The divergence between Australia and the United
States is even more apparent with violent crime. While

PUBLIC POLICY SOURCES, NUMBER 71
The Failed Experiment 4 The Fraser Institute
violent crime is decreasing in the United States, it is in-
creasing in Australia. Over the past six years, the over-
all rate of violent crime in Australia has continued to
increase. Robbery and armed robbery rates continue to
rise. Armed robbery has increased 166% nationwide.
The confiscation and destruction of legally owned fire-
arms cost Australian taxpayers at least $500 million.
The costs of the police services bureaucracy, including
the hugely costly infrastructure of the gun registration
system, has increased by $200 million since 1997. And
for what? There has been no visible impact on violent
crime. It is impossible to justify such a massive amount of
the taxpayers’ money for no decrease in crime. For that
kind of tax money, the police could have had more pa-
trol cars, shorter shifts, or maybe even better equipment.
Think of how many lives might have been saved.

Look at the actual numbers, just a chart. My uncle was a statistics professor, he loved to say that the best thing about statistics is that you can make them say whatever you want.

Murderers per capita last year were half what they were in the mid 90s.

If you asked for a rifle recommendation and I told you a Savage 110 was lighter than a Win 70 Featherweight for less money, you'd be mad if you bought one based on that. But if I said it was a great shooting gun for the money, you could use that information to make a decision.

 

[scattergun]

For that kind of tax money, the police could have had more patrol cars, shorter shifts, or maybe even better equipment.
Think of how many lives might have been saved.

Ha, if police spending actually correlated to violent-crime rates, then the US (which blows a staggering 2% of its GDP on cops) would be among the least-violent countries in the world.

 

[isItFallYet]

Ha, if police spending actually correlated to violent-crime rates, then the US (which blows a staggering 2% of its GDP on cops) would be among the least-violent countries in the world.

That report is from your country, so it must be accurate!

 

[amassi]

Ha, if police spending actually correlated to violent-crime rates, then the US (which blows a staggering 2% of its GDP on cops) would be among the least-violent countries in the world.

2% of gpd or enough to qualify for the 4th largest army on the planet. The standing army that's going to come and take em is happily funded by the no step on snek crowd

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[displacedtexan]

2% of gpd or enough to qualify for the 4th largest army on the planet. The standing army that's going to come and take em is happily funded by the no step on snek crowd

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Look up the history of the Gonzales flag. Makes it even funnier.

Spoiler, that cannon belonged to the Mexican government.

 

[Yoder]

He's probably talking about the one in the mid 90s where they banned semi auto rifles and shotguns for civilian ownership. (Maybe pumps too?)

And apparently ignoring the fact that homicides are down about 50% since then.

#alternativefacts

Look at homicide in Australia from the ban in 1996 until around 2002. The numbers stayed about the same. They started dropping after that. So what caused the drop? If it was the gun ban, why did it take 6 yrs?

 

[roosiebull]

Search "house gun bill passed" and you'll find it. Unfortunately I could not find any text on what would be banned. The AR15 is a certainty but it also mentioned "certain semi automatic handguns" which could be almost anything.

I thought he was only going after the ar14’s?

 

[Gutshot007]

I thought he was only going after the ar14’s?

I heard also 13's, 16's and maybe 19''s

 

[roosiebull]

I heard also 13's, 16's and maybe 19''s

I think it’s a fair compromise, we could at least give up our AR12’s just to meet in the middle

I’m not really worried about gun bans right now, but I’m in a panic since I learned I could become pregnant, I don’t know if I could handle being pregnant for 9 months… I miss the days when only my wife could get pregnant

Also worried about global warming, the average temps have increased 30% in the past 3 months alone

 

[Gutshot007]

Well if they take the ar17' 's at least we'll have our shotguns to go out on the deck and shot in the air to keep those pesky intruders away