CO Mountain Lion Ballot Initiative: Continuous Updates

robby denning

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Let's face it, folks. We got lucky. This came as a surprise, we reacted late, and none of us were sure how it would turn out. We need to be on the lookout for these things earlier, fight them smarter, and counter where we can.
With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.
 

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With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.
Dan and crew were busting ass and it did not go unnoticed by most of us on the ground here. Kudos to those boys.
 

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Let's face it, folks. We got lucky. This came as a surprise, we reacted late, and none of us were sure how it would turn out. We need to be on the lookout for these things earlier, fight them smarter, and counter where we can.
Reacted late? Travis Hobbs reported this was coming in way back in January and started spreading the word then.

For nearly a year CRWM has battled every step of the way. Extreme hard work, networking and teaming up like minded people, along with a great campaign plan got the NO votes rolling in.

I for one appropriate every single person's hard efforts on the ground in Colorado to push this to the finish line.

Luck now that's for Vegas.



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With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.
Seconded. No luck involved. Lots of hard work by those mentioned above.
 
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With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.
Completely agree. Tons of hard work put in by Colorado hunters and also non-resident hunters. Huge outpouring of support from the hunting community. Really impressive.
 

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Reacted late? Travis Hobbs reported this was coming in way back in January and started spreading the word then.

For nearly a year CRWM has battled every step of the way. Extreme hard work, networking and teaming up like minded people, along with a great campaign plan got the NO votes rolling in.

I for one appropriate every single person's hard efforts on the ground in Colorado to push this to the finish line.

Luck now that's for Vegas.



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Yea that post is horse crap but it shows that if you live in a bubble, it came as a surprise.
 
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With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.
Agreed, I can't remember exactly where I first heard about it but by the second week in March I happened to be skiing out of Salida and talking with ranchers about it.

Would be interesting to know how the "general public" (non-hunters, non-activists) received info on it.

Also need to get the contact info for the rancher who said he'd take me hound hunting if it got struck down :D
 

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Yea that post is horse crap but it shows that if you live in a bubble, it came as a surprise.
It came as a surprise to (edit not you, got the person wrong sorry, the other guy) perhaps. But CRWM fought this both in the legislature and game commission when it was attempted in those arenas and won. This ballot initiative was the anti’s last ditch attempt to get the ban and folks were aware from the get go and this has been on folks radars back when it was prop 91 (or whatever it was in the proposal phase) and they fought against the “trophy hunting” in the title and were raising awareness and funding the entire time signatures were being gathered to get this on the ballot. We’ve all known this was coming for a long damn time.

If you’re talking the hard press part on public awareness they strategized when to deploy the limited funds (which was still millions) to make a public impact in voting.

You’re woefully naive if you think CO was caught off guard, luckily CRWM was in place for years already to react against this.

Other states better get prepared though…
 
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In related news, Prop 134 (which would make ballot box biology tougher) in Arizona ain’t looking real good.

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In related news, Prop 134 (which would make ballot box biology tougher) in Arizona ain’t looking real good.

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Yeah, that sucks, on the flipside we did win proposition 2 in Florida, the right to hunt and fish as I think they call it. That was a win for HOWL as well.
 
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