CO Mountain Lion Ballot Initiative: Continuous Updates

[fngTony]

True, still sucks…

There’s probably more money on a 3% marijuana tax if they passed one.

 

[street]

Let's face it, folks. We got lucky. This came as a surprise, we reacted late, and none of us were sure how it would turn out. We need to be on the lookout for these things earlier, fight them smarter, and counter where we can.

Wasn't just luck

 

[robby denning]

Let's face it, folks. We got lucky. This came as a surprise, we reacted late, and none of us were sure how it would turn out. We need to be on the lookout for these things earlier, fight them smarter, and counter where we can.

With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.

 

[CoMulies]

With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.

Dan and crew were busting ass and it did not go unnoticed by most of us on the ground here. Kudos to those boys.

 

[realunlucky]

Let's face it, folks. We got lucky. This came as a surprise, we reacted late, and none of us were sure how it would turn out. We need to be on the lookout for these things earlier, fight them smarter, and counter where we can.

Reacted late? Travis Hobbs reported this was coming in way back in January and started spreading the word then.

For nearly a year CRWM has battled every step of the way. Extreme hard work, networking and teaming up like minded people, along with a great campaign plan got the NO votes rolling in.

I for one appropriate every single person's hard efforts on the ground in Colorado to push this to the finish line.

Luck now that's for Vegas.



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[MeatInTheFreezer]

With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.

Seconded. No luck involved. Lots of hard work by those mentioned above.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.

Completely agree. Tons of hard work put in by Colorado hunters and also non-resident hunters. Huge outpouring of support from the hunting community. Really impressive.

 

[sodaksooner]

Crwm and howl made this a national issue and outdoors people from all across the nation stepped up! Happy for you guys. Now there is a blueprint for how to fight these issues.

 

[lak2004]

Reacted late? Travis Hobbs reported this was coming in way back in January and started spreading the word then.

For nearly a year CRWM has battled every step of the way. Extreme hard work, networking and teaming up like minded people, along with a great campaign plan got the NO votes rolling in.

I for one appropriate every single person's hard efforts on the ground in Colorado to push this to the finish line.

Luck now that's for Vegas.



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Yea that post is horse crap but it shows that if you live in a bubble, it came as a surprise.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

With all due respect, brother I disagree, we reacted late on the wolf issue, but Dan Gates and CRWM got way ahead on this cat issue. @Travis Hobbs had Dan on the Rokcast on January 1, (and Dan had been on a few other podcasts last fall). We offered free ad space to HOWL starting in 2023.

And then Dan and his crew just continued to roll hard the last 10 months. Lots of the industry got involved from NGOs, businesses, influencers and most importantly, Colorado hunters.

No disrespect to you, but I don’t wanna let this stand that if we win, it was all luck. A lot of people worked really hard for this. Including a whole bunch of members on this forum in time, money.

Agreed, I can't remember exactly where I first heard about it but by the second week in March I happened to be skiing out of Salida and talking with ranchers about it.

Would be interesting to know how the "general public" (non-hunters, non-activists) received info on it.

Also need to get the contact info for the rancher who said he'd take me hound hunting if it got struck down

 

[fngTony]

Maybe it’s just me but I’ve been picking up on peoples regrets on voting for the wolves. Hopefully this is a sign of people returning to critical thinking and not voting because of emotional propaganda.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Yea that post is horse crap but it shows that if you live in a bubble, it came as a surprise.

It came as a surprise to (edit not you, got the person wrong sorry, the other guy) perhaps. But CRWM fought this both in the legislature and game commission when it was attempted in those arenas and won. This ballot initiative was the anti’s last ditch attempt to get the ban and folks were aware from the get go and this has been on folks radars back when it was prop 91 (or whatever it was in the proposal phase) and they fought against the “trophy hunting” in the title and were raising awareness and funding the entire time signatures were being gathered to get this on the ballot. We’ve all known this was coming for a long damn time.

If you’re talking the hard press part on public awareness they strategized when to deploy the limited funds (which was still millions) to make a public impact in voting.

You’re woefully naive if you think CO was caught off guard, luckily CRWM was in place for years already to react against this.

Other states better get prepared though…

 

[robby denning]

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Also need to get the contact info for the rancher who said he'd take me hound hunting if it got struck down

Ya! Call that guy if we win. Be one of the first to hunt cats since the attempted shut-down.

 

[ElDiablito]

In related news, Prop 134 (which would make ballot box biology tougher) in Arizona ain’t looking real good.

Prop 134 Protects AZ Hunters

Prop 134 helps all Arizonans get the representation they need and avoid dangerous measures that threaten their way of life. We'd like to draw attention to how Prop 134 would help hunters. Ballot Box Biology, as we've recently seen in states like Colorado, is a real danger to science-based...

www.howlforwildlife.org

 

[robby denning]

In related news, Prop 134 (which would make ballot box biology tougher) in Arizona ain’t looking real good.

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Prop 134 Protects AZ Hunters

Prop 134 helps all Arizonans get the representation they need and avoid dangerous measures that threaten their way of life. We'd like to draw attention to how Prop 134 would help hunters. Ballot Box Biology, as we've recently seen in states like Colorado, is a real danger to science-based...

www.howlforwildlife.org

Yeah, that sucks, on the flipside we did win proposition 2 in Florida, the right to hunt and fish as I think they call it. That was a win for HOWL as well.

 

[abbrown]

Dan Gates for President! Bear Claw party

 

[35WhelenAI]

The current results will do with respect to constitutional adherence...

 

[Poser]

Good work by all parties involved in informing the public. 6 months ago, I was not optimistic on this, but my optimism grew seeing the effort that individuals and groups put into fighting this.

Thinking about a ballot initiative that prevents future ballot box biology and simultaneously annuls/negates/overturns the spring bear hunting voter ban should be the next collective goal for CO hunters in my opinion.

 

[MuleyFever]

How do these ballot initiatives work when they are voted down? Can the people pushing this just try again on the next election year?

 

[ElDiablito]

How do these ballot initiatives work when they are voted down? Can the people pushing this just try again on the next election year?

Yep. I believe they can.