.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Ryan Avery]

no : / to84s

Couldn’t tell for sure on my phone… Nice goat either way!

 

[rsltid13]

In stock. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....rain-tmk-tipped-boat-tail-matchking-100-count

 

[dirtytough]

A couple questions for the 223 mega thread. And no I didn’t read the entire thread.

I bought a 223 for practice. I probably won’t hunt with it much. I’ll reload for it. What bullets are recommended for target practice? 77 TMK’s are more expensive than 75 ELD’s. BC looks close on paper so I’m assuming practice with either would be about the same. Or should I be looking at something different for practice?

What brass? I don’t mind buying premium like Lapua if it will actually matter. Obviously longevity is important since this setup is to shoot more.

What suppressor is recommended for a 223? I have a few but they are big high volume cans. With the 223 being a lot smaller cartridge I’m assuming I could get by with a lot smaller suppressor than say a Hyperion.

Regards, Branden

 

[Formidilosus]

I bought a 223 for practice. I probably won’t hunt with it much. I’ll reload for it. What bullets are recommended for target practice? 77 TMK’s are more expensive than 75 ELD’s. BC looks close on paper so I’m assuming practice with either would be about the same. Or should I be looking at something different for practice?

If not using for animals, whatever rod cheap and shoots decent with a decent BC- 68 or 75gr Hornady HPBT or 73gr ELD-M, 77gr SMK, etc.

What brass? I don’t mind buying premium like Lapua if it will actually matter. Obviously longevity is important since this setup is to shoot more.

It doesn’t really matter. You can lose your mind worrying about all the nonsense, or just shoot whatever brass and toss it after 4-5 firings.

What suppressor is recommended for a 223? I have a few but they are big high volume cans. With the 223 being a lot smaller cartridge I’m assuming I could get by with a lot smaller suppressor than say a Hyperion.

Regards, Branden

It isn’t required, but a Hyperion sounds great on a 223. Really any decent 6-7” can, there is no massive difference between any of them. I would and do happily shoot a $450 JK Armament suppressor on them.

 

[ARK_Ginger]

A couple questions for the 223 mega thread. And no I didn’t read the entire thread.

I bought a 223 for practice. I probably won’t hunt with it much. I’ll reload for it. What bullets are recommended for target practice? 77 TMK’s are more expensive than 75 ELD’s. BC looks close on paper so I’m assuming practice with either would be about the same. Or should I be looking at something different for practice?

What brass? I don’t mind buying premium like Lapua if it will actually matter. Obviously longevity is important since this setup is to shoot more.

What suppressor is recommended for a 223? I have a few but they are big high volume cans. With the 223 being a lot smaller cartridge I’m assuming I could get by with a lot smaller suppressor than say a Hyperion.

Regards, Branden

75gr ELD is a great BC bullet but it won't fit in the factory Tikka magazine. There's lots of options for bullets. I've not tried them but RMR supposedly makes a good 75gr bullet for a great price. PSA makes 77gr OTM ammo for 55cents a round with decent accuracy if you want to skip the reloading bench.

I don't believe brass is a huge factor with 223. It's easy to find a vendor selling lake city or similar brass processed and ready to load.

Don't have much of an opinion but I'd love to have a Hyperion over my heavy form 1. That or a Otter Creek OCM5.

 

[Juan_ID]

A couple questions for the 223 mega thread. And no I didn’t read the entire thread.

I bought a 223 for practice. I probably won’t hunt with it much. I’ll reload for it. What bullets are recommended for target practice? 77 TMK’s are more expensive than 75 ELD’s. BC looks close on paper so I’m assuming practice with either would be about the same. Or should I be looking at something different for practice?

What brass? I don’t mind buying premium like Lapua if it will actually matter. Obviously longevity is important since this setup is to shoot more.

What suppressor is recommended for a 223? I have a few but they are big high volume cans. With the 223 being a lot smaller cartridge I’m assuming I could get by with a lot smaller suppressor than say a Hyperion.

Regards, Branden

If you’re wanting to shoot it in factory form the 75 eld’s will be too long too feed from the mag. I have shot a pile of 73 eld’s and 75bthp’s. Both have shot just as well as the tmk’s.

I have also loaded a fair bit of all 3 projectiles into lapua brass. I have since sold it and gone to starline. Haven’t done much load work up at all, but don’t anticipate having any issues as all of my early 223 reloads were loaded in pmc brass and they shot just fine but only lasted about 5 firings before they started to give out.

I think any suppressor would work fine, I have an omega and a Hyperion k, both work just fine on the 223. I will likely use the Hyperion on it primarily as it’s a little more compact than the omega and I don’t really need the added recoil reduction the omega provides.

 

[Juan_ID]

Little late to the party… Hadn’t refreshed the page and got caught up in something else while I was replying.

 

[Tahr]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the .222 Rem used to be a very popular cartridge for deer culling in NZ.

Yes. Many many thousands of deer were shot by government cullers and commercial meat hunters during the 60's and 70's with the .222. The government supplied cullers with .222 ammo and subsidised Sako and BSA rifles in that caliber. The .222 eventually lost favour to the .223 which is still very popular. I have used both for 55 years of hunting both commercially and privately. This year I have shot 18 deer with the .223 using 60 to 80 grn bullets.
This thread sort of picks up on what we have been doing en masse for decades - extracting the max out of the .223 for no fuss game animal hunting. And faster twists and heavier bullets have now turned that on its head and made it even so much more effective.

 

[Lawnboi]

A couple questions for the 223 mega thread. And no I didn’t read the entire thread.

I bought a 223 for practice. I probably won’t hunt with it much. I’ll reload for it. What bullets are recommended for target practice? 77 TMK’s are more expensive than 75 ELD’s. BC looks close on paper so I’m assuming practice with either would be about the same. Or should I be looking at something different for practice?

What brass? I don’t mind buying premium like Lapua if it will actually matter. Obviously longevity is important since this setup is to shoot more.

What suppressor is recommended for a 223? I have a few but they are big high volume cans. With the 223 being a lot smaller cartridge I’m assuming I could get by with a lot smaller suppressor than say a Hyperion.

Regards, Branden

Out of everything Iv shot, if I could go back, I’d buy a few thousand 73 eldm. Assuming you’re shooting a tikka they will fit in the factory mag and factory tikka chambers seem to like them. They have a similar bc to the tmk.

Lapua is nowhere to be found right now but if you’re not going to lose your brass it’s what I prefer. Just less messing around with culling, removing primer crimps and everything else that sucks about cheap brass.

Nothing wrong with a big can.

In todays market, with a factory tikka I’d probably buy 200-400 adi 55 blitz king factory rounds off Global ordinance break in with those, and fill them up with tac tipped with a 73eldm. Primers are not crimped on the adi brass. I’ll never remove primer crimps from 223 brass again.

ADI World Class .223 REM 55 Grain Sierra Blitzking CASE200 UPC: 9332153003173

Global Ordnance. ADI (Australian Munitions). The Sierra® BlitzKing® selected for this load is designed for explosive expansion in varmints and small game with the accuracy of the MatchKing® bullets

globalordnance.com

Being that you may shoot in the cold a lot I’d probably work up a Varget load as well. Unless Xbr every cokes back again.

 

[BLJ]

@Lawnboi. Any reason for the 55 over the 69’s? And is Global Ordinance GTG? Thanks.

 

[Castle Rock]

Both are really good

 

[Lawnboi]

@Lawnboi. Any reason for the 55 over the 69’s? And is Global Ordinance GTG? Thanks.

55 BK have shot really well in every tikka Iv used them in…. Much like the 73.

 

[BLJ]

55 BK have shot really well in every tikka Iv used them in…. Much like the 73.

I was thinking generally in reference to the ammo. Not Tikka specifically like you were talking about. I miss read.

I will say the 69’s have done well in my Ruger American Ranch.

 

[dirtytough]

It doesn’t really matter. You can lose your mind worrying about all the nonsense, or just shoot whatever brass and toss it after 4-5 firings.

Is that normal for 223? 4-5 firings? For what it is for I definitely won’t be leaning on it.

In todays market, with a factory tikka I’d probably buy 200-400 adi 55 blitz king factory rounds off Global ordinance break in with those, and fill them up with tac tipped with a 73eldm. Primers are not crimped on the adi brass. I’ll never remove primer crimps from 223 brass again.

ADI World Class .223 REM 55 Grain Sierra Blitzking CASE200 UPC: 9332153003173

Global Ordnance. ADI (Australian Munitions). The Sierra® BlitzKing® selected for this load is designed for explosive expansion in varmints and small game with the accuracy of the MatchKing® bullets

globalordnance.com

Being that you may shoot in the cold a lot I’d probably work up a Varget load as well. Unless Xbr every cokes back again.

Thanks for the link. That seems like the easy button to start with. And fairly inexpensive.

Regards, Branden

 

[Jimbee]

ADI 69gr shot really well in my tikka.

 

[Formidilosus]

Is that normal for 223? 4-5 firings? For what it is for I definitely won’t be leaning on it.

No, not at all. I was just saying. 10-20 loadings is normal for most.

 

[Axlrod]

Lapua brass is a little more consistent weight wise, but overall Lake city is very good, and generally has the most capacity in .556 brass. You can buy fully processed ready to load Lake city on G.B. for .33 cents ea. or so. They will last 20+ fireings, but I only reload them once out of an AR and 3-4 times in a bolt or single shot gun.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/995315457

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[mtnwrunner]

Came across this as I was drinking my mud this morning. "A certain forum" and thread are being talked about. So much wrong in this video but it just goes to show that others just don't want to open their minds. World is full of experts.
More tmk's for me.........

Randy

 

[justinspicher]

If anyone needs brass, I have a ton of it you can have.

 

[BLJ]

If anyone needs brass, I have a ton of it you can have.

What brand??