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fshaw

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I’m guessing that you didn’t read the post above about why I don’t like Trump. That’s why I said your post is funny.

It’s almost cliche for the most ardent Trump supporters to reflex to assumptions about those who find him a poor choice for the Presidency. I’ll make the same assumptions about you as you do about me. Let me guess, your primary news source, is it the one fined over 700 Million for knowingly lying to their consumers and promoting known false information about a voting machine conspiracy. Or is it one of the other fringe sources that folded on their “Kraken” stories. Personally I try to get information from
A pretty broad range of sources. Though I do admit that I’m as susceptible to confirmation bias as you are.

I’d bet that I consume news from across a broader spectrum of sources than you do. Since this is an inane interweb disagreement I guess we’ll never know. Or do you fall into the oh-so-typical, if it isn’t a Trump approved source it’s fake news. Deep state. Leftist. Socialist. I’m not any of those and don’t understand the “my guy or you’re a moron” dismissive argument mentality reflexed to by many of the most devout supporters of Trump.

I’m not a Harris supporter, I voted for the candidate with the best chance of keeping Trump out of the Presidency. A few of my core reasons were listed above. Just like Admirals, a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a pretty long list of retired military officers and many people from his former administration, I don’t like many of his policies, how he denigrates people, and the amoral character he brings to the Presidency of the United States. I’m not espousing Harris as an icon, just preferable to Trump. Apparently you do like him, evidently a lot. That’s the great thing about America, we get to publicly disagree. What’s also great about America is that we will endure and survive this current test.

Your guy won, democracy in action. I served a career in the military to defend that institution and will retire my “Veterans Against Trump” hat the day before he takes office as is my responsibility as a patriotic American. I also won’t show a F—- DJT sticker or flag, it is disrespectful to the office of the Presidency.

The next 4 years will further define his character. I honestly and sincerely hope that you’re right and I’m wrong.

Have a great day.
 

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I’m guessing that you didn’t read the post above about why I don’t like Trump. That’s why I said your post is funny.

It’s almost cliche for the most ardent Trump supporters to reflex to assumptions about those who find him a poor choice for the Presidency. I’ll make the same assumptions about you as you do about me. Let me guess, your primary news source, is it the one fined over 700 Million for knowingly lying to their consumers and promoting known false information about a voting machine conspiracy. Or is it one of the other fringe sources that folded on their “Kraken” stories. Personally I try to get information from
A pretty broad range of sources. Though I do admit that I’m as susceptible to confirmation bias as you are.

I’d bet that I consume news from across a broader spectrum of sources than you do. Since this is an inane interweb disagreement I guess we’ll never know. Or do you fall into the oh-so-typical, if it isn’t a Trump approved source it’s fake news. Deep state. Leftist. Socialist. I’m not any of those and don’t understand the “my guy or you’re a moron” dismissive argument mentality reflexed to by many of the most devout supporters of Trump.

I’m not a Harris supporter, I voted for the candidate with the best chance of keeping Trump out of the Presidency. A few of my core reasons were listed above. Just like Admirals, a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a pretty long list of retired military officers and many people from his former administration, I don’t like many of his policies, how he denigrates people, and the amoral character he brings to the Presidency of the United States. I’m not espousing Harris as an icon, just preferable to Trump. Apparently you do like him, evidently a lot. That’s the great thing about America, we get to publicly disagree. What’s also great about America is that we will endure and survive this current test.

Your guy won, democracy in action. I served a career in the military to defend that institution and will retire my “Veterans Against Trump” hat the day before he takes office as is my responsibility as a patriotic American. I also won’t show a F—- DJT sticker or flag, it is disrespectful to the office of the Presidency.

The next 4 years will further define his character. I honestly and sincerely hope that you’re right and I’m wrong.

Have a great day.

With all due respect - and talking about myself only as guy who voted (R) - you are wrong on a level that would probably surprise you. I VERY seriously doubt you get/read info from a wider variety than I do. Your comment pigeonholes (R) voters to the extent that it acts as evidence against your claim.

But - to each his own, said the old lady as she kissed the cow.
 

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Did someone say memes?


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The turn out in rural Arizona was really impressive here in Pinal county.

I’m not an overly political person, but it was good to see folks out voting.
 

fshaw

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6 year submariner here. Thank you for your service. I think for some people you are right when you say he "appeals to the worst of our human nature." But I know for a fact that for many of us, many of his policies appeal to "the better angels of our nature."

My vote is entirely based on his actual performance during his first term, the crop of incredible kids he's raised, and now the people he's surrounded himself with and his campaign platform.
Thank you for your service, PM me with your boat if you would. I sincerely hope that you are right and I am wrong.
 

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I watched J6 live, had it been as violent as they and apparently you said the cars they walked by, the windows left intact, the capitol itself would have been destroyed.

You're post echos the talking points of every disgruntled MSM host.

I hate Fox News just as much as I hate the left wing news.

I don't give a shit about your character if our country is better off fiscally.

You stated he praised Hitlers generals, listen to the whole clip.

Those retired military men you posted about are nothing but career politicians, there racks are built of the actual bad asses below them.

The town you speak of in Pennsylvania who eiected a dead guy is full of idiots. Anyone but a Republican.

You stated you were a Republican but believe Harris was a better choice ? She has zero accomplishments and was installed not elected. Matter of fact she couldn't even make it out of a primary. You're type of thinking is why a medical nightmare elected in pa.

Trump got elected based off the character of every idiot on the left in public eye.

Biden and Harris made America infinitely weaker, both militarily and economically.

I dislike Trump and felt like there was so many better in the primaries.

No one but Trump could have done what was done last night.

No one to thank but the left, their puppet masters, and the media.


All in all it's our civic duty to vote and it's our right to vote for who we want.
 
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I don’t disagree with the statement on Texas eventually going blue because of Metropolitan areas.

And that is when I will leave Texas.

Also I can pretty well say with confidence that any Southerners that have moved to California have not contributed to its downfall.


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This was the electoral map in 2018.

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This was the electoral map last night.


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Fear not, the trend says we are becoming more red!

It’s going to take a whole hell of a lot to flip Texas.


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fshaw

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No. It means you believe everything cnn tells you and would literally vote for a ham sandwich just because it isn't the evil orange man.

That's fine. Your choice.
Wrong there buddy. Like I said, read thempost about why I don’t support Trump, if you care to. If not, just keep assuming if that works for you. If he best represents your values good, not so much for me.
 

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I’m guessing that you didn’t read the post above about why I don’t like Trump. That’s why I said your post is funny.

It’s almost cliche for the most ardent Trump supporters to reflex to assumptions about those who find him a poor choice for the Presidency. I’ll make the same assumptions about you as you do about me. Let me guess, your primary news source, is it the one fined over 700 Million for knowingly lying to their consumers and promoting known false information about a voting machine conspiracy. Or is it one of the other fringe sources that folded on their “Kraken” stories. Personally I try to get information from
A pretty broad range of sources. Though I do admit that I’m as susceptible to confirmation bias as you are.

I’d bet that I consume news from across a broader spectrum of sources than you do. Since this is an inane interweb disagreement I guess we’ll never know. Or do you fall into the oh-so-typical, if it isn’t a Trump approved source it’s fake news. Deep state. Leftist. Socialist. I’m not any of those and don’t understand the “my guy or you’re a moron” dismissive argument mentality reflexed to by many of the most devout supporters of Trump.

I’m not a Harris supporter, I voted for the candidate with the best chance of keeping Trump out of the Presidency. A few of my core reasons were listed above. Just like Admirals, a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a pretty long list of retired military officers and many people from his former administration, I don’t like many of his policies, how he denigrates people, and the amoral character he brings to the Presidency of the United States. I’m not espousing Harris as an icon, just preferable to Trump. Apparently you do like him, evidently a lot. That’s the great thing about America, we get to publicly disagree. What’s also great about America is that we will endure and survive this current test.

Your guy won, democracy in action. I served a career in the military to defend that institution and will retire my “Veterans Against Trump” hat the day before he takes office as is my responsibility as a patriotic American. I also won’t show a F—- DJT sticker or flag, it is disrespectful to the office of the Presidency.

The next 4 years will further define his character. I honestly and sincerely hope that you’re right and I’m wrong.

Have a great day.
You voted for a guy that put tampon machines in boys bathrooms?
 

amassi

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This was the electoral map in 2018.

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This was the electoral map last night.


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Fear not, the trend says we are becoming more red!

It’s going to take a whole hell of a lot to flip Texas.


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It’s all those Californians moved there over the last 6 years


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fshaw

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I watched J6 live, had it been as violent as they and apparently you said the cars they walked by, the windows left intact, the capitol itself would have been destroyed.

You're post echos the talking points of every disgruntled MSM host.

I hate Fox News just as much as I hate the left wing news.

I don't give a shit about your character if our country is better off fiscally.

You stated he praised Hitlers generals, listen to the whole clip.

Those retired military men you posted about are nothing but career politicians, there racks are built of the actual bad asses below them.

The town you speak of in Pennsylvania who eiected a dead guy is full of idiots. Anyone but a Republican.

You stated you were a Republican but believe Harris was a better choice ? She has zero accomplishments and was installed not elected. Matter of fact she couldn't even make it out of a primary. You're type of thinking is why a medical nightmare elected in pa.

Trump got elected based off the character of every idiot on the left in public eye.

Biden and Harris made America infinitely weaker, both militarily and economically.

I dislike Trump and felt like there was so many better in the primaries.

No one but Trump could have done what was done last night.

No one to thank but the left, their puppet masters, and the media.


All in all it's our civic duty to vote and it's our right to vote for who we want.
Did you read the part about the dead man winning the election in my town? I’d have voted for him over Trump. I guess that I just dislike him more than you do.

I agree with you, it is the fault of the Democratic party that Trump was elected and I’ve never been a Democrat. Trump has more time as a Democrat than I do. Hopefully we can get beyond Trump and fringe ideology from both parties and start fielding better candidates.

Is is our civic duty, and thankfully our right to vote for who we want to. I may not agree with your choice but I absolutely support your right to make it.
 

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You voted for a guy that put tampon machines in boys bathrooms?
I guess so, I’ll have to check to see if that’s an accurate accusation. It was either that or a guy who was banging a porn star when his wife was home with their newborn and taped while bragging about sexually assaulting women. As the father of two daughters I find that a bit more troubling character flaw. One man’s opinion.
 

fshaw

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Did you read the part about the dead man winning the election in my town? I’d have voted for him over Trump. I guess that I just dislike him more than you do.

I agree with you, it is the fault of the Democratic party that Trump was elected and I’ve never been a Democrat. Trump has more time as a Democrat than I do. Hopefully we can get beyond Trump and fringe ideology from both parties and start fielding better candidates.

Is is our civic duty, and thankfully our right to vote for who we want to. I may not agree with your choice but I absolutely support your right to make it.
Did you ever serve with any military leaders? If you did, thank you for your service, and I’m sorry that your experiences with them left you with such a poor opinion of military leadership. By and large the men I served with (no women on submarines when I was in) were fine, patriotic Americans who sacrificed to keep our country strong.
 

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I guess so, I’ll have to check to see if that’s an accurate accusation. It was either that or a guy who was banging a porn star when his wife was home with their newborn and taped while bragging about sexually assaulting women. As the father of two daughters I find that a bit more troubling character flaw. One man’s opinion.
you should support the potus elect and put your tds to bed.....there was no other choice.
 
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