If you would have bought 13 billion in stock in 2004 you’d have about $.22 left today after all the RS. I watched as pumpers on every single public forum pushed that thing 2 years ago, they were pushing winter shipping this, storage that. About the time it passed $1 they were gone, no activity after that. About 1000% for the pumpers, losses for the rest. It could get a bump on a good day, but it’s hard to tell. I mean if you are willing to risk it, can hold for a bump. But it could go down steady for a long time