The All New MRC/S2H Marshall Rifle Now Available

[gbflyer]

Very cool! Thanks!
Will have to reread those posts a few times

Timing also refers to the cartridge coming up and into the bolt face/under the extractor correctly during the forward cycle of the bolt. This is the “controlled” part of the CRF. There are many, many CRF rifles that don’t do this and act as a push feed, the extractor snaps over the rim when the case headspace’s in the breech just like a PF.

 

[Imac45acp]

Is the action on the MRC rifle machined so the ultra-accurate hand lapped barrel can be swapped, by the user, for a shouldered pre-fit (“LEGO part”)? I don’t see mention in the description.

Pre-fit would have to be turned to spec, but it's quite easy. I gave Blaine at UM the specs and he was able to turn the 6creed barrel up for Form right off the bat.

I must have missed it... Who makes the ULTRA-ACCURATE HAND LAPPED BARREL?

I don't see it listed on their site or the UM site...

We make our barrels in house.

I believe Ian said it is breached like a Mauser with an internal C collar, so the barrel is flat on the face

Cutting to the chase- correct there's no extractor relief on the barrel. The breach area is Mauser-ish, and the barrel has a flat face (also no shoulder, it abuts directly on the collar, not the front of the receiver).

I’m interested because the factory offerings are hard to find in a quality rifle or without a rebarrel/custom ordered rifle.

However, what has the new MRC done to overcome the customer service shortcomings of the old MRC. A name change would have been a great place to start.
Knowing previous employees of the old MRC I have questions but am interested.

Keep in mind, there is absolutely no connection to the previous MRC that closed their doors in 2020. First and foremost, we're a 3rd generation precision machine shop that's been making medical tools, firearm components, and other do-dads for over 60 years. 25 years ago, the 2nd/3rd generation came up with a novel broadhead design that started G5 Outdoors, then came Prime Archery. Me personally, my background is in guns and aerospace ordinance stuff. That's why I was brought onboard just after the late 2020 acquisition of MRC in early 2021. I/we spent almost 2 years re-designing and fine tuning all of the tolerances for this product to be consistent from gun to gun. On our regular line (Highline and Junction) we make everything in house aside from the stocks, the stamped magazine box, springs and a few commercial fasteners. Buying vs Making components is a huge contributing factor to the cost of this rifle because you have to roll in other companies' part markup into the end product. There's a little cost added in for extra test time and ammo, but it's not much.

At any rate, I just got back in the office from the Western Hunt show, and will try to respond in a more timely manner to any questions.

 

[atmat]

Keep in mind, there is absolutely no connection to the previous MRC that closed their doors in 2020… That's why I was brought onboard just after the late 2020 acquisition of MRC in early 2021. I/we spent almost 2 years re-designing and fine tuning all of the tolerances for this product to be consistent from gun to gun.

Y’all probably should’ve rebranded/changed names then.

 

[gbflyer]

Y’all probably should’ve rebranded/changed names then.

I don’t know...I do see your point though. It got NRA rifle of the year once under the other guys. That’s a fairly meaty bit of good press. It’s also a cool name. They can surely overcome any of the bad stuff with a willingness to test, consistently good products and stellar service that has been shown here.

 

[Lowedog]

@Imac45acp , Do your Highline and Junction models go through the same process of being completely proofed before shipping? Is there any difference in the actions between the 3 models?

 

[Imac45acp]

@Imac45acp , Do your Highline and Junction models go through the same process of being completely proofed before shipping? Is there any difference in the actions between the 3 models?

The standard production rifles go through a similar feed test, but there's a lot less variability with an integral box magazine, so it's not 101 rounds. All rifles are tested with proof ammo.

The actions are identical between the Junction, Highline, and Marshall aside from long/short variations. The 375s are beefed up a bit, and the wood stock variant has a traditional drilled/tapped top side (no pic rail).

 

[Dioni A]

To the folks asking about 22 Creed barrel twists 7 twist can be hard on bullets. (2 of the 3, 7 twists I have experience blew up bullets) I think the type of rifling plays a big part and it sounds like MRC is going to be testing this and are open to other twist rates. I've only heard of 88 eldms blowing up but they're also one of the most attractive options for 22 Creed shooters.
I appreciate how committed they've been to trying to do things right.

 

[waspocrew]

For 22 CM, they’d be better served with a 1:7.5 or 1:8. 88 ELDMs shoot well in my 1:8. I’d imagine most interested in the 22 CM would be shooting 88 gr or less anyways.

 

[Dioni A]

For 22 CM, they’d be better served with a 1:7.5 or 1:8. 88 ELDMs shoot well in my 1:8. I’d imagine most interested in the 22 CM would be shooting 88 gr or less anyways.

I think 7.5 is the answer. The unfortunate thing about the 88 is it’s a little bit more of a unforgiving profile than most other ELDM’s and tougher to get accuracy in some guns. 7.5 should offer enough stability for most situations with the heaviest bullets and still not destroy lighter bullets. 8 would probably be fine, but some people at sea level with the shorter barrel, running lighter loads, may see issues.

 

[Edge]

@Imac45acp any thoughts on increasing twist rate on the 22 Creed from 7 to 7.5? Instances of 7 twist spinning the bullets apart, couple of guys posted directly above.

 

[Dioni A]

@Imac45acp any thoughts on increasing twist rate on the 22 Creed from 7 to 7.5? Instances of 7 twist spinning the bullets apart, couple of guys posted directly above.

In that same post, you supposedly read. I mentioned that they were open to other twist rates and going to test it. I had a conversation with them about this.

 

[Edge]

In that same post, you supposedly read. I mentioned that they were open to other twist rates and going to test it. I had a conversation with them about this.

I can read and comprehend just fine, you stated “sounded like…” does that mean you heard it from someone else and passing along? You didn’t state you talked to them directly in that post. Appreciate the feedback on the 7 twist experience.

In any case, would like to hear it straight from the manufacturer. Seriously considering one of these rifles but they need to get it right up front before I’ll enter the cc.

 

[Dioni A]

I can read and comprehend just fine, you stated “sounded like…” does that mean you heard it from someone else and passing along? You didn’t state you talked to them directly in that post. Appreciate the feedback on the 7 twist experience.

In any case, would like to hear it straight from the manufacturer. Seriously considering one of these rifles but they need to get it right up front before I’ll enter the cc.

Apologize for how that came across. I had a conversation with them about this specifically. I’ve been around more than a dozen 22 Creedmoor now and PM them about using a 7 twist. they bought the equipment to make 7, 7.5 and eight twist barrels. They’re going to test all three.

 

[Dioni A]

@Edge the type of rifling they’re doing should be less aggressive on the jacket of the bullet and seven twist may not be an issue at all.

 

[Gstew1930]

I would change the twist rste based on length. 7 or 7.5 for the 18" and 8 twist for the 22"

 

[Edge]

Apologize for how that came across. I had a conversation with them about this specifically. I’ve been around more than a dozen 22 Creedmoor now and PM them about using a 7 twist. they bought the equipment to make 7, 7.5 and eight twist barrels. They’re going to test all three.

No worries, what we think we are conveying isn’t always how it comes across. I’ve been guilty more times than I want to admit, ask my Wife

Agree with you, 7.5 is probably the min twist for these long lead core bullets with thin jackets.

 

[Mojave]

Hornady doesn't like the 1 in 7. There is a whole podcast about it. I think the SAAMI spec is 1 in 8.

 

[Bluumoon]

@Imac45acp. Did we ever clarify if it’ll be the 1st 100 orders or 1 st 100 rifles that you were going to add a little something?

Hopefully the shows went well and orders are stacking up.

 

[BBob]

any thoughts on increasing decreasing twist rate on the 22 Creed from 7 to 7.5?

 

[Marbles]

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.