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Makes me sick, literally sick to my stomach to hear him suggest we should lose our public lands and be more like the eastern states, or worse, Texas.

Texas ain't so bad. We have year round hunting opportunities. World class whitetail hunting, a severe hog problem, ducks, an extended snow goose season that is unlimited (all of which I cut my teeth on, on federal and state public land), exotics, Javelina, desert bighorns (another public land hunt) and almost any other game you can imagine short of elk.

Sure there are many cases when you "pay to play" but I have spent alot less money getting on a deer lease than I have buying all the necessary gear to backpack hunt, and then when you add on the out of state licenses that range from $6-800 for the privilege of hunting game on those public lands and the gas to get there its just about the same amount of $$ except instead of a season being 30 days or a week you get year round access and hunting. And then there are the day hunts...I can drive to numerous ranches within 30 minutes of me and dove hunt or hog hunt for less than $150.
 
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At this point I don't think a vote is possible, Cruz-nope, Rubio-nope, trump-nope, Hillary- nope, sanders-nope.

They are all terrible, and personally I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I voted for any of them at this point.
I would encourage everyone to vote, even if they skip the presidential vote or do a write-in. Plenty of state and local elections that matter.
 

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At this point I don't think a vote is possible, Cruz-nope, Rubio-nope, trump-nope, Hillary- nope, sanders-nope.

They are all terrible, and personally I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I voted for any of them at this point.

My daughter had to do a civics assignment by going to "www.isidewith.com" and answering the questions to see who they most are similar to as to the folks running for President. Check it out and see what comes up.
 
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Texas ain't so bad. We have year round hunting opportunities. World class whitetail hunting, a severe hog problem, ducks, an extended snow goose season that is unlimited (all of which I cut my teeth on, on federal and state public land), exotics, Javelina, desert bighorns (another public land hunt) and almost any other game you can imagine short of elk.

Sure there are many cases when you "pay to play" but I have spent alot less money getting on a deer lease than I have buying all the necessary gear to backpack hunt, and then when you add on the out of state licenses that range from $6-800 for the privilege of hunting game on those public lands and the gas to get there its just about the same amount of $$ except instead of a season being 30 days or a week you get year round access and hunting. And then there are the day hunts...I can drive to numerous ranches within 30 minutes of me and dove hunt or hog hunt for less than $150.

And if it was like TX you can now add on the added cost for acesss and I'm sure the tag prices would jump since fewer could afford it. Easy to say TX is affordable when you live there :). To me MT is also affordable and I don't have to pay for access to hunt.
 

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Texas ain't so bad.

I disagree. Texas is the antithesis of the North American Hunting Model, IMO.


No thanks. I can see the Selway Bitterroot Wilderness from this computer and can walk 30 miles in a straight line West without crossing a road, let alone some fence marked, "No Trespassing." I was out there today for a while, and really enjoyed it.
 
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I would encourage everyone to vote, even if they skip the presidential vote or do a write-in. Plenty of state and local elections that matter.

Whole heartedly agree, I was speaking more to the pres. And having no idea anymore where to go with it.
 
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My daughter had to do a civics assignment by going to "www.isidewith.com" and answering the questions to see who they most are similar to as to the folks running for President. Check it out and see what comes up.

Lib.... As in libertarian, who knew
 
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Texas ain't so bad.

Confused. You posted this picture. Great shot, somewhere in TX?

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Do you want to see some cool country in my neck of the woods? Sorry, I have been excluded.

Highest scoring bighorns in the country and world class elk. A few years ago it was easy to see this amazing county and the critters that spend their lives on that public land. Recently a couple fellas from TX decided that wasn't fair. If locked gates aren't good enough, put some armed contractors on the gate. Humorous that he took my picture as he was walking away. Probably on some TX list now. :rolleyes:

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Do you know the fellas? They gave $15 million to "the tool cruz".
 

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Texas isn't that bad, but numbnuts that don't understand history, and how Texas became a State in the Union don't understand why there isn't public land there. Just a heads up fellas, Im sure most folks in Texas would love more public land (you know since the many state and national parks in texas are enjoyed) but since the land was settle way back in the 1840's there isn't much modern day Texans can do about that.

But Im sure you don't care, keep hating....

P.S. there are public land hunting opportunities, including drawn hunts...but don't apply Yankees.

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There's photograph from Texas....public land no less....
 
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Did that pass in the last ten years? Or was that initiated during clintons time??
Could you provide the citation, and date?
Bernie is a joke so I think I'll pass on that option.

If you bothered to read what I responded to I am not the one blaming capitalism.

I never said it was passed within the last 10yrs, did I?
 

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Do you want to see some cool country in my neck of the woods? Sorry, I have been excluded.

Highest scoring bighorns in the country and world class elk. A few years ago it was easy to see this amazing county and the critters that spend their lives on that public land. Recently a couple fellas from TX decided that wasn't fair. If locked gates aren't good enough, put some armed contractors on the gate.

So you're saying that they bought this piece of public land?
 

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since the land was settle way back in the 1840's there isn't much modern day Texans can do about that.

Exactly,

But there is sure something we can do about it throughout the western states.

When it comes to public land, Texas is so, so terribly aweful compared to the Western states.

The point wasn't to hate on Texas, but rather rebut Cruz' comparison that the Western States should be like Texas regarding public land.

There are plenty of things to like about Texas, but public lands access isn't one of them.
 

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So you're saying that they bought this piece of public land?

In effect buying large amounts of currently public land is exactly what they are trying to do. They are holding long-standing public land access hostage as a tool towards their goal as well.
 

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In effect buying large amounts of currently public land is exactly what they are trying to do. They are holding long-standing public land access hostage as a tool towards their goal as well.

MT has always had large tracts of land-locked public lands. That's why guys are renting helicopters to fly in and hunt them. The land around these public lands was most likely private already, so I wouldn't say that "holding the access hostage" is so accurate. More like exercising private property rights.

There was a large tract north of the Missouri River like that with access through one piece of property. At least that's where the road and private ranch was. You could still access it from other spots, but you had to hump it a ways. That's life. I don't like trespassers either.
 
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