I’d echo your take regarding optical performance vs EL Ranges I owned previously. That said, definitely a solidly built bino, with best in class ranging capability/feature set. No regrets making the switch.So far i really like them. Great glass but not quite as bright in low light as my EL swaros. Have ranged to 3200 yards with them. Seem well built and sturdy.
If you can get an Aziak clamp on there with the arca foot, I would just do that instead of screwing around with studs etc. Lighter and simpler, and takes the optic restrictions with stud acceptance out of the question (if the aziak works for you).Like some others on this thread I’m either getting a set of el’s/sf’s and a br4 or just getting the revics.
For those of you that used to/still have el/sf’s do you think you are loosing any game spotting ability with the revic’s?
Also, are the revics able to accept a mount for tripod?
I have the rrs strap so I’ll just use that.If you can get an Aziak clamp on there with the arca foot, I would just do that instead of screwing around with studs etc. Lighter and simpler, and takes the optic restrictions with stud acceptance out of the question (if the aziak works for you).
I just got a pair of these today and was able to compare them next to the Sig Kilo 3000s which were very close to the Fury, giving a light edge to the Sigs when I compared those 2 side by side. The Revics definitely have much better glass, they were brighter than the sigs down to the last minutes of light and had a sharper image. So far I am impressed. I can't wait to get these up and running.Thread 'Revic BLR10B vs Vortex fury hd 5000' https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/revic-blr10b-vs-vortex-fury-hd-5000.329916/
This one may get there.
Trying to get my head wrapped around the BLR10b. I'll be out of cell service most of the time when using it so I don't want to depend on data supplied by the flat phone. I also understand there are details hidden in some of the boxes below, like certain calculations only being done when using vector wind, options for 5 different laser/ranging modes, and developing a profile. The work-flow below looks pretty simple, so I think I'm getting distracted by all the widgits in the phone app, even though I do not need the phone app running all the time.
Does this work flow (especially the data sources) look right?
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Haha. You haven’t pole vaulted over the mouse turd, you’re building a bridge over it.
That’s generally correct, however the base wind function works fine past 600 yards. In mountainous, broken terrain the wind meters and apps don’t work anyways as there are often multiple wind directions and speeds between you and the target.
The wind speed and direction feeding into an app to give you a wind call is the most over used, and least useful feature on them. It gives a false sense of security and not much more.
From a practical standpoint, would this series of steps represent a reasonable/practical approach to shooting in windy conditions in the mountains?
1. Range target and dial for solution.
2. Estimate wind, hold based on known wind number, shoot and spot impact.
3. Correct for wind based on impact in mils and shoot again?
Thanks @Formidilosus, I need pictures to understand and draw them myself if I have to.Haha. You haven’t pole vaulted over the mouse turd, you’re building a bridge over it.
That’s generally correct, however the base wind function works fine past 600 yards. In mountainous, broken terrain the wind meters and apps don’t work anyways as there are often multiple wind directions and speeds between you and the target.
The wind speed and direction feeding into an app to give you a wind call is the most over used, and least useful feature on them. It gives a false sense of security and not much more.
Thanks @Formidilosus, I need pictures to understand and draw them myself if I have to.
I get what you're saying about the wind. Estimating that is a skill I'm still ramping up and using the gun-number/MPH system is where I'm headed, taking the RFB out of the wind solution. That +/-600 split in the chart comes from one of the Revic videos which indicates that using the manually inputting a complete vector wind turns on parts of the calculator (e.g. jump) that are minor enough to only matter "beyond 600 or 700 yards." I gotta go back through that because maybe that calculation needs to be turned on/off manually.
Anyways, it looks like after using the phone app to build and upload a profile and then manually loading the latitude and elevation, the RFB should be a stand-alone tool.
Next is figuring out the bluetooth connection and when to use the phone app.
This is why, from what I have seen with hundreds of shooters and hunters, if someone isn’t shooting multiple thousands of rounds a year in novel field environments in broken terrain, they really shouldn’t be shooting beyond 450’ish to 500 yards.
So true for me. Big dose of reality the last couple of months for my shooting. I think it's partially due to over confidence with a rifle after spending so much time with my bow this year. But a 400 and in rifle/shooter needs to stay a 400 and in rifle/shooter unless you put in some real time. For me, it doesn't take much wind or range error to create misses outside 450. My shooting notes after this weekend: Practice more!
Im finding that locating somewhere to shoot that far regularly without shooting over a road or towards one is as hard as making the time to go out and shoot.That is baseline, yes and must be learned and practiced constantly regardless of skill level as missed wind calls are real, and will happen regardless of person.
Shooting well in the wind in broken terrain is not something that is mechanical. It requires experience, and in part a subconscious understanding of what the wind will do. I am not trying to make it mythical, however there is a part to it of measuring and the seeing the wind, and intuitively making a probabilistic determination of what will happen to the bullet. That can only be gained in shooting in really crappy conditions and terrain on a consistent basis.
This is why, from what I have seen with hundreds of shooters and hunters, if someone isn’t shooting multiple thousands of rounds a year in novel field environments in broken terrain, they really shouldn’t be shooting beyond 450’ish to 500 yards.
The Cold Bore Challenge this year showed how few people who believe their on demand range was past 600 yards, missed their first shot at sub 500 yards.