Official Montana 2023 Draw Thread!

[bmart2622]

I’m busting but literally every other post here so far is encouraging and you are offering up the suggestion that this be a bitching free zone and how nice it would be

Thats good, lets keep it that way

 

[JD Jones]

Good luck y’all!

 

[spitfire_er]

Brother and I are in with 0 PPs. We drew 2021 with 0 PP's, and both of us filled our tags with our 1st bulls!

 

[DanimalW]

Any guesses on percentage of 2 pts drawn?

No, but I’m curious

 

[Bones72]

Hopefully I draw this year. Going into this years draw I have 2 preference points and 5 bonus points. I applied for unit 410-21. If drawn I'm going with Flatwillow Creek Outfitters. I called the FWP the other day asking when the draw was and the rude lady said, ITS the second week of April!! Time for a new JOB...LOL In years past when did they draw? I need to be quick so I don't miss my opening with the outfitter. Thanks

 

[mikeafeagin22]

Quick question on the draw.. applied as a party for my first time this year. I had 0, bought a pp, he had 1, bought a pp. From my understanding of the Montana draw system, that’s 3/2= 1.5 pp which rounds up to 2. I had 4 bonus points, he had 3. 7/2= 3.5 then rounds up to 4. Correct? Or have I completely misinterpreted the regs.

 

[Marine4life]

I am not in the draw this year so that will help with your odds. Instead I will be spending most of Sept in AZ. Here is another LOL for you to complain about bmart.


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[fatlander]

Not sure of the exact stats, you could probably get a good idea from last year’s draw numbers. However, I’d guess 95%+- since I know people that drew with 0 and 1 over the past 2 years.


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No one with less than 2 points drew last year except for the 0s. It took 2.2 points to be guaranteed. 2 points was 97.5%

12,188 people had greater than 0 but less than 2 points last year.

There are only 12,750 tags that go to those withe preference points. The rest go to the zero pool. Everyone applying with an outfitter should have at least two points. It’ll be 85ish percent with two points this year is my guess.

Montana legislature will move the goal post again year after next when outfitted clients aren’t drawing tags.


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[Amos Moses]

Quick question on the draw.. applied as a party for my first time this year. I had 0, bought a pp, he had 1, bought a pp. From my understanding of the Montana draw system, that’s 3/2= 1.5 pp which rounds up to 2. I had 4 bonus points, he had 3. 7/2= 3.5 then rounds up to 4. Correct? Or have I completely misinterpreted the regs.

Montana won’t round up. You’ll be at 1.5pp and 3.5 bonus points.

 

[fatlander]

Montana won’t round up. You’ll be at 1.5pp and 3.5 bonus points.

They don’t round preference points

They do round bonus points


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[trevvamos]

Will give me some clarity and set my back up plans in motion. Waiting on New Mexico also.

Same boat, should be a white knuckle couple of weeks.

 

[mikeafeagin22]

They don’t round preference points

They do round bonus points


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Well that stinks.. I thought I read that they round up points but I must have only seen the bonus points and assumed it was both. We’d have been much better off just applying separately like we normally do. I’d have gone in with 0 and he’d have had 2. That’s going to be a tough conversation tomorrow telling him I basically screwed him out of a Montana tag this year.

 

[Raghornkiller]

Just dont tell him and act surprised when you dont draw.

 

[mikeafeagin22]

Just dont tell him and act surprised when you dont draw.

No kidding.. no guarantees at 2pp now anyways. Makes me sweat that NM draw quite a bit more

 

[jyoung1901]

My buddy and I are in at 0, drew in 2019, hoping to draw again. Especially with Winter Kill in Colorado (the hopeful backup OTC option).

 

[G8tor4217]

Is the draw definitely next Friday at a certain time or does it vary?

 

[PaBone]

Hoping to draw Montana and I'll be in Alaska right before Montana's archery season. Not hunting Alaska something far more expensive, my daughter's wedding.

 

[BigBull777]

I’m afraid MFWP has done it again and is on the verge of screwing up the draw again this year. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think so. Just looked at my email attachment from this years application and it says clearly I have more bonus points than I actually do. Logged into My FWP and confirmed it for both the deer and elk permits I put in for. Then I checked my wife, same thing. It says bonus points accumulated though 2022 is 1 for deer and one for elk even though she drew both those tags in 2022. Unlike preference points, bonus points are only awarded AFTER an unsuccessful draw and used to gain advantage in subsequent years drawing. Checked the regs and confirmed that’s correct. It’s clearly started in there as such. You should check your info- be curious to know if you all have the same screw up
or if my family is just the lucky recipients of free bonus points from MFWP.

 

[BigBull777]

From the 2023 DEA Montana regulations-

 

[OpenCountry]

I’m afraid MFWP has done it again and is on the verge of screwing up the draw again this year. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think so. Just looked at my email attachment from this years application and it says clearly I have more bonus points than I actually do. Logged into My FWP and confirmed it for both the deer and elk permits I put in for. Then I checked my wife, same thing. It says bonus points accumulated though 2022 is 1 for deer and one for elk even though she drew both those tags in 2022. Unlike preference points, bonus points are only awarded AFTER an unsuccessful draw and used to gain advantage in subsequent years drawing. Checked the regs and confirmed that’s correct. It’s clearly started in there as such. You should check your info- be curious to know if you all have the same screw up
or if my family is just the lucky recipients of free bonus points from MFWP.

I noticed the same thing once the phone app was introduced. Bonus points went up one as soon as everything was purchased. Haven’t heard of it being hit or miss but more so the norm now.