Official Montana 2024 Draw Thread

[Mdfowlman2]

Weird things happen with the released tags. Last year people in parties drew released tags, but no one else in their party did.

@Ten Bears does your tag say (Released) next to it when you look it up here?

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Released tags go to individuals, not parties. Parties are only for the initial draw

 

[rogerthat]

Tries applying for 270 elk to hunt the migration, but accidently drew deer instead. Not interested in shooting a mule deer.

Foes anyone know if I can trade the deer tag for an elk tag?

Good joke

 

[Erict]

Released tags go to individuals, not parties. Parties are only for the initial draw

That is contrary to MT FWP info found in post #345, partially quoted below:

* If your party number is shown in parentheses after the released combination license, then your entire party was successful in receiving a released license. If not, then your party was separated based on the individual refund selection choices in their applications.

 

[Riplip]

That is contrary to MT FWP info found in post #345, partially quoted below:

* If your party number is shown in parentheses after the released combination license, then your entire party was successful in receiving a released license. If not, then your party was separated based on the individual refund selection choices in their applications.

This is my understanding as well. The only way a party application is broken up into individual applications is if one or more of the party's applications do not match the exactly match the organizers application, for example one person chooses a different refund option than the others.

 

[southernhive]

NR w/1 PP drew General Elk. Miracles do happen.

 

[Bcleck90]

NR with 1 pp also. Drew general deer tag. I had to turn my tag in a couple years ago so looking forward to my first MT trip.

 

[Jherek]

Drew a 312 deer tag! Shocked that I was drawn.....
Also wish I would have done a little more homework on that unit and how the quality is down before I applied.
Oh well, I'm still excited and going to get after it!

 

[Elktuff]

Just drew Montana for the first time hunting unit 417 archery

I drew 417-20

 

[camelcluch]

Struck out for everything

 

[Rifleman86]

I’m patiently awaiting official draw results statistics. It’s always tough to get a real feel for what statistics were in reality based off these threads. We have some people claiming they didn’t draw with 2 PP’s for general elk and we also have folks claiming they did draw with 1 point that wasn’t a released tag.

Either the people with 2 points didn’t have the points they thought or the people with 1 point got a released tag and didn’t realize it.

Regardless, anecdotally the odds for point holders did seem to improve a little this year. Being a draw statistics nerd, I can’t wait to find out. lol.

 

[Fowl Play]

I’m patiently awaiting official draw results statistics. It’s always tough to get a real feel for what statistics were in reality based off these threads. We have some people claiming they didn’t draw with 2 PP’s for general elk and we also have folks claiming they did draw with 1 point that wasn’t a released tag.

Either the people with 2 points didn’t have the points they thought or the people with 1 point got a released tag and didn’t realize it.

Regardless, anecdotally the odds for point holders did seem to improve a little this year. Being a draw statistics nerd, I can’t wait to find out. lol.

Or those who said they had 1 PP actually forgot to purchase one and had 0 PP. But yes, very curious to see the statistics based upon the stuff I’m reading online.

 

[Elk97]

Mine was a released tag with 1 PP.

 

[6mm Remington]

Just checked no special district buck mule deer or bull elk this year. At least I can still hun them elsewhere in different districts. All is not lost.

 

[yoopshoot]

Draw stats are out.


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[Crowmangler]

It's crazy that you can start your application with zero points & have ~60% chance of success... then give them $100 more & your chances go to zero LOL

 

[eltx]

The YoY drop in applications is interesting

 

[Rifleman86]

Draw stats are out.


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Called it!

2 point odds improved from slightly this year. As f$cked up as MT FWP is, their preference points system is the best for the end user. Turns out when you make people apply every year or lose their points, the system works as intended. Colorado and Wyoming should be paying attention, but then again they will never let that cash cow Ponzi scheme die.

Additionally, approximately 1500 less applicants this year, an indication that the western hunting bubble is bursting slightly, which is good. Turns out elk hunting is hard, time consuming, and not exactly what it looks like on instagram.

With only around 850 2 point holders that didn’t draw, that means we shouldn’t see nearly as many 3 point holders going into the draw in 2025 as we have seen the past 2 years. 2 point draw odds will likely improve again next year.

It’s not all doom and gloom!

 

[dreamingbig]

Called it!

2 point odds improved from slightly this year. As f$cked up as MT FWP is, their preference points system is the best for the end user. Turns out when you make people apply every year or lose their points, the system works as intended. Colorado and Wyoming should be paying attention, but then again they will never let that cash cow Ponzi scheme die.

Additionally, approximately 1500 less applicants this year, an indication that the western hunting bubble is bursting slightly, which is good. Turns out elk hunting is hard, time consuming, and not exactly what it looks like on instagram.

With only around 850 2 point holders that didn’t draw, that means we shouldn’t see nearly as many 3 point holders going into the draw in 2025 as we have seen the past 2 years. 2 point draw odds will likely improve again next year.

It’s not all doom and gloom!

I disagree. I didn’t draw so it is gloomy over here.


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[mountainman406]

The YoY drop in applications is interesting

I’d be interested to see how many of those applicants are now residents.


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[Scottf270]

Definitely shows a drop in applicants overall and an encouraging trend to those who want to hunt Montana every year. Stops the insane points build up.

We have drawn deer combo with one point two years in a row. Those with 3 points will be at a multi year low next year. I like it!!