Official Montana 2025 Draw Thread

[Jaker_cc]

Situations like this are why I’ve never let an outfitter apply for me. It’s a deal breaker from the jump

 

[Cdnance]

2.2 points and above was 100% draw in the preference round. Even if your outfitter tried to use a 3 point application to pull someone else up, you’d have still been at or above the 2.2. Everyone applying with an outfitter should have at least two points, you cannot have more than 5 people on a party, so any outfitted party with at least one 3 point app has no reason to ever be below 2.2.

As screwed up as MTs released draw round is, you should have never gotten there. Someone dropped the ball on the application end. Not filling out your own application and trusting someone else to do it correctly is what happened to you.


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We all filled out our own applications. All as individuals, no parties. I understand what you are saying, but what I am saying is that it doesn’t add up.
Was there something wrong with the other guys applications? Maybe. But don’t you find it odd that one guy has his paid receipt and is listed as “did not enter”.

 

[fatlander]

We all filled out our own applications. All as individuals, no parties. I understand what you are saying, but what I am saying is that it doesn’t add up.
Was there something wrong with the other guys applications? Maybe. But don’t you find it odd that one guy has his paid receipt and is listed as “did not enter”.

I do find it odd that one guy is listed as “did not enter”. Not even sure how that’s possible. If he paid, he should have been in the draw. I’d be shocked if MT doesn’t give him a tag.

It’s also odd that y’all had a medley of 2 or 3 points but decided to not apply together. You all would have drawn as a party, unquestionably.

It’s also odd that one outfitter has this issue with a 50% reduction in hunters drawing. There’s no reason any outfitter shouldn’t be pairing guys with two points with one guy that’s got 3 every year to make sure they all draw.


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[Mdfowlman2]

Not really sure what stretching the truth would do. What good would it do? Mathematically it makes no sense. Point wise it makes no sense.
However, the situation is still the same. I didn’t fill the forms out myself, but I think we are all capable of doing so. 3 points and no draw, and “not entered” with a receipt seems like a problem.
I would completely understand if they hadn’t paid, or didn’t get confirmation, but to have all of that and still not be drawn seem incorrect.

I wasn't speaking to your situation, but more so the Guides claim that his clients have reduced by half which sounds like he's insinuating this is due to not drawing.

 

[Cdnance]

I do find it odd that one guy is listed as “did not enter”. Not even sure how that’s possible. If he paid, he should have been in the draw. I’d be shocked if MT doesn’t give him a tag.

It’s also odd that y’all had a medley of 2 or 3 points but decided to not apply together. You all would have drawn as a party, unquestionably.

It’s also odd that one outfitter has this issue with a 50% reduction in hunters drawing. There’s no reason any outfitter shouldn’t be pairing guys with two points with one guy that’s got 3 every year to make sure they all draw.


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The group kind of made itself. I wasn’t originally going, but once I realized I was able, I jumped in. Then I invited the third guy.

I’m with you. I think FWP will end up giving him a tag. If they don’t he will probably get a full refund. Or at least I would hope.

I’m gonna call Randy again today and see if he has gotten ahold of FWP.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

I do find it odd that one guy is listed as “did not enter”. Not even sure how that’s possible. If he paid, he should have been in the draw. I’d be shocked if MT doesn’t give him a tag.

It’s also odd that y’all had a medley of 2 or 3 points but decided to not apply together. You all would have drawn as a party, unquestionably.

It’s also odd that one outfitter has this issue with a 50% reduction in hunters drawing. There’s no reason any outfitter shouldn’t be pairing guys with two points with one guy that’s got 3 every year to make sure they all draw.


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Yea outfitters can go pound sand. They got their extra welfare point and not 2 years later complaining about not having clients/not drawing
If they have a reduction of clients it’s not because they aren’t drawing….

 

[ndbuck09]

my group of 4 had 2 points for elk combo. We were trying for a limited entry unit and were turning back in our general elk combo tag if we didn't draw the limited entry. We didn't draw the elk combo with 2 and we didn't lose our points so we're part of the 17% at the 2 point level. We didn't get a reissued elk combo because we didn't want just the elk combo.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Alternate list is out, #865 here, what a bummer

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Dang, the one guy in our group of 6 who didn't draw is #1270...

Trying to figure out what tag options (antlerless?) that he could pick up so he can still make the trip.

 

[7millie]

I got #543. Anybody remember how many were in the pot last year? 1602 it says this year. I think I remember 2700 ish last year???

 

[cmak]

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