Colorado Corner Crossing Legislation - HB23-1066

[cnelk]

A bill has been introduced regarding corner crossing in Colorado

The bill can be seen and tracked here.

(I’m not sure it will survive)

Public Access Landlocked Publicly Owned Land | Colorado General Assembly

leg.colorado.gov

 

[Justin Crossley]

I hope it makes it through.

 

[dieselchessy]

You’d need a pretty substantial improvement to public land to allow a wheelchair bound individual to cross a 54” tall fenced corner without touching the private land or fence.
Where did they get 54”? Fence posts are commonly 8’ and are often placed with 3’ in the ground leaving 5’ of exposed post.
Maybe Colorado folks do fence differently.

I think it’s a good start, but could use some improvement.
Probably easier to first get it through, and then fight to add disabled access after general access is established.

 

[Fatcamp]

You’d need a pretty substantial improvement to public land to allow a wheelchair bound individual to cross a 54” tall fenced corner without touching the private land or fence.
Where did they get 54”? Fence posts are commonly 8’ and are often placed with 3’ in the ground leaving 5’ of exposed post.
Maybe Colorado folks do fence differently.

I think it’s a good start, but could use some improvement.
Probably easier to first get it through, and then fight to add disabled access after general access is established.

Where are you from? Most t-posts are 6' around here. Crossing a 5' tall barbed wire fence would be tough.

 

[87TT]

Yep, never seen a 5' range fence.

 

[LongWayAround]

The 48" wide/54" tall language sounds like something ADA related.

While well intended, that seems pretty asinine. The vast majority of those types of corners will never see a disabled attempt to cross them.

Maybe that's the key to passing this though. Se loophole about denying equal access...

 

[87TT]

Seems like a 36" gap would be simpler.

 

[LongWayAround]

Seems like a 36" gap would be simpler.

I believe as far as wheelchairs are concerned, they go 36" and add 12" for turn radius.

 

[Billy Goat]

A standard post driver is made to put posts 53".

 

[rayporter]

2ft deep t posts is ridiculous unless you are using hydraulic drver. as you approach 18 inches you will look for any excuse to stop. so that puts a 72 in post about 54 inches deep.

 

[Coveyleader]

Why would you add wheel chair accessibility into the bill? Seriously?

 

[dieselchessy]

Where are you from? Most t-posts are 6' around here. Crossing a 5' tall barbed wire fence would be tough.

SW Washington.
I’ve never built a corner, H brace, gate, ect.. with a T-post. We use wood posts for that. I’d expect a wood post at a corner.

Sounds like range fence is built with 6.5’ posts set 2.5’ into the ground out there.

 

[Blowdowner]

I hope this comes true and other states follow.

 

[Unckebob]

Why would you add wheel chair accessibility into the bill? Seriously?

Why do drive thru ATM's have their keys in braile?

 

[Mtnmilsurp]

Is this dead forever? It got through the House and now says the Senate postponed it indefinitely?

Public Access Landlocked Publicly Owned Land | Colorado General Assembly

leg.colorado.gov

 

[sodaksooner]

A standard post driver is made to put posts 53".

I used to work for a company that made T-posts many years ago. FWIW, best sellers were 6', with 5.5 and 6.5 after that. 8' posts were made rarely, although we still made them.

 

[Billy Goat]

I used to work for a company that made T-posts many years ago. FWIW, best sellers were 6', with 5.5 and 6.5 after that. 8' posts were made rarely, although we still made them.

I'm talking about a wooden post driver for woven fence. Them t-posts are just for where you can't get a real post in the ground.



6' only gives you less than 18" in the ground if you are using wire that's 47-49" tall, especially if using a barb or hot wire over top.

I generally just get a 5.5 foot if putting in t-posts, cause I generally am drilling a hole in rock to put them in, and they don't need to go deep in limestone.

 

[def90]

I believe as far as wheelchairs are concerned, they go 36" and add 12" for turn radius.

In construction a 36 inch door is ADA compliant.

 

[dusky]

Sounds like indefinitely postponed. I also see on the website the term "failed" applied to the bill. Pay attention to those senators who shot this down. https://leg.colorado.gov/content/8c0d617a6a761491872589a8006b1c3e-hb23-1066-1-activity-vote-summary
Check out this article, where RMEF and others are slammed for not showing up to speak on behalf of the bill, while numerous private land/rancher/farmer type orgs showed up.
https://publiclandjurisdiction.com/true-colors-exposed-with-colorados-corner-crossing-bill-hb-1066/

 

[Amos Keeto]

In construction a 36 inch door is ADA compliant.

True, but a standard wheelchair will go through a 2'8" (32") door. Gotta watch your fingers, but it will fit. Ask me how I know. LOL!
Due to injuries, every door in my home is 3-0×6-8 except one.