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I’m 47, YES a landline is a reasonable alternative to a cell Fartwell. I was 22 before my first cell phone and even now a cell is not a necessity for me i don’t NEED one.

With a landline people call you, you pick up, you talk like a normal human. If you’re not home they leave a message and you call them back. My parents do just fine without cell phones, always have. Millions of American don’t have cell phones Fartwell.

If i’m wrong Fartwell lay out your argument on why you NEED your cell phone to live? I’m all ears.
I'll point out that you did it again. Disingenuous again. This thread is not about NEEDS. My comment was not about NEEDS. If you want to continue on with asinine comments, a phone is not a NEED.

What reasonable non-Chinese alternative is their to a single device that allows me to field business calls while I am on the road, use it as a GPS and be able to use the internet?

Furiously Google "cell phones not made in China," then come back with more ill-informed content.
 
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Few things I've gotten from China, like, straight up small boutique, making shit the hard way in crappy factory, but good tolerances and I'm striving for a better life, Chinese dudes.

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I focus more on the person/company/owner/work ethic than I do where they are from, or CO.

Much like immigration topic for me. I'll take 10 illegal Juan's who work hard, have good ethics/moral and are nuclear oriented (family), than 1 American 'victim' on welfare.

I'll send my money direct to Mao, if the shirt fits, is comfortable, is cost effective.

We collectively created the issue of China, actually through many different creeds, we all are at fault for it.

But I won't spend more for an inferior product.
 

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I’m a pretty patriotic guy and hate communism as much as the next guy. But I think the “only USA”guys need to reevaluate how committed they are when they are using electronics to type those messages, on the internet, that likely uses Chinese made routers and modems or cell towers with Chinese made tech.

My Motorola phone is made in India. Samsung Galaxy and Note 10 series phones along with the LG phones are made in South Korea, Sony phones are made in Japan. Google was supposed to be moving their production of phones to Vietnam, not sure where they are at with that. Apple is really the only big name still holding on to made in China.

As for the cell networks themselves companies were using Chinese made components some years back mostly components made by Huawei but the US has banned import of those components and they will be phased out of US cell systems over the next few years.
 
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I'll point out that you did it again. Disingenuous again. This thread is not about NEEDS. My comment was not about NEEDS. If you want to continue on with asinine comments, a phone is not a NEED.

What reasonable non-Chinese alternative is their to a single device that allows me to field business calls while I am on the road, use it as a GPS and be able to use the internet?

Furiously Google "cell phones not made in China," then come back with more ill-informed content.

Actually all of the big name smart phone producers other than Apple have left China. Most smartphones are made in South Korea and Vietnam now. If you have to have Apple then you are still locked in to supporting a company that has nets set up around their factory to prevent workers from committing suicide.

 
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I try to buy made in USA.

Taiwan and Japan and S. Korea and India are fine as mentioned before- they are strategic leverage against China.

As far as sending money to Mao, little flippant since Mao presided over the largest genocide we know of in recent history- if MS-13 was operating an ice-cream truck in your neighborhood, and they offered the best ice cream at the best price, you would buy it right?

I have no issues with the people of China. I have major issues with their ruling regime that has published plans to overtake and overthrow their sovereign competitors.

Let's not go crazy with "all-or-nothing", let's not throw our hands up and say "we-can't-do-anything" or "it's not our problem", and let's not view it as a sprint. It'll be a marathon of small choices and actions that add up over time and, hopefully, makes a difference for the people who come after us.

I remember being 6 and riding in the back of my grandma's car and she had some weird neck pillow with a manufacturing tab I was studying and then she brought up trying to buy things that weren't made in China. I didn't understand it for a while, but now two generations later I'm trying to do the same thing. I like to think it adds up.

My turn to be flippant- sometimes I wonder if buying from California is just as bad as buying from China...
 
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I try to buy made in USA.

Taiwan and Japan and S. Korea and India are fine as mentioned before- they are strategic leverage against China.

As far as sending money to Mao, little flippant since Mao presided over the largest genocide we know of in recent history- if MS-13 was operating an ice-cream truck in your neighborhood, and they offered the best ice cream at the best price, you would buy it right?

I have no issues with the people of China. I have major issues with their ruling regime that has published plans to overtake and overthrow their sovereign competitors.

Let's not go crazy with "all-or-nothing", let's not throw our hands up and say "we-can't-do-anything" or "it's not our problem", and let's not view it as a sprint. It'll be a marathon of small choices and actions that add up over time and, hopefully, makes a difference for the people who come after us.

I remember being 6 and riding in the back of my grandma's car and she had some weird neck pillow with a manufacturing tab I was studying and then she brought up trying to buy things that weren't made in China. I didn't understand it for a while, but now two generations later I'm trying to do the same thing. I like to think it adds up.

My turn to be flippant- sometimes I wonder if buying from California is just as bad as buying from China...
I do the best I reasonably can. When it comes to gun related items, I will go far out of my way to eschew China made stuff. China is an oppressive communist regime. Their citizens have few rights. They have no gun rights. I am not sure I can articulate well, but it feels wrong to buy gun related stuff from a country that won't allow their citizens to own the item I am buying. Now couple that with the fact that they are perhaps our greatest geopolitical foe, and I am not anxious to fund their next balloon.

I am surprised that people don't understand this mindset. It seems entirely reasonable to me, but it apparently sets some people off.
 

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I feel the same way about hunting equipment in general. If I can get it made jn the USA, I will. Especially if the other options are made in countries that dont allow their citizens to hunt. It just seems wrong.
 
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I'll point out that you did it again. Disingenuous again. This thread is not about NEEDS. My comment was not about NEEDS. If you want to continue on with asinine comments, a phone is not a NEED.

What reasonable non-Chinese alternative is their to a single device that allows me to field business calls while I am on the road, use it as a GPS and be able to use the internet?

Furiously Google "cell phones not made in China," then come back with more ill-informed content.

I don’t have to Google others have already educated you Fartwell. There ARE alternatives to Chinese products.

You’ve been schooled today.
 
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I've already posted them.. Essentially any phone not made by Apple these days is not going to be made in China.
When my previous phone was toasted due to immersion in water, it would have been more reasonable for me to buy a new non-Chinese phone than to take a Chinese hand-me down from my wife? We certainly have a different definition of reasonable?
 

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I guarantee you that every cell phone regardless of where Google says they are made, are made with components that are coming out of China. It’s fashionable now to tell the American population where something is “made” to give you a sense of control. The reality is, whether it’s made in Korea, India, or USA, if it’s a consumer electronic, it’s full of china made components


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And to add to that, if there’s companies making consumer electronics and advertising now that they no longer build something in China, they didn’t leave due to patriotism, it was likely a financial decision due to supply chain issues…


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When my previous phone was toasted due to immersion in water, it would have been more reasonable for me to buy a new non-Chinese phone than to take a Chinese hand-me down from my wife? We certainly have a different definition of reasonable?

Aren't you changing your original question now?
 
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I'll point out that you did it again. Disingenuous again. This thread is not about NEEDS. My comment was not about NEEDS. If you want to continue on with asinine comments, a phone is not a NEED.

What reasonable non-Chinese alternative is their to a single device that allows me to field business calls while I am on the road, use it as a GPS and be able to use the internet?

Furiously Google "cell phones not made in China," then come back with more ill-informed content.
Let’s gripe about China when everything used to generate, store and view this post relies upon components made in China.

Rather than change the world, start at home. It’ll have a much bigger impact.
 
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