Cliff Grays Podcast with Aaron Davidson

[SDHNTR]

I’ve never listened to one of his podcasts admittedly. I don’t have the attention span for most podcasts.

But I have watched plenty of his LRP episodes, and the vibe is clear. Thousand yards out of the box and go slay!

 

[SDHNTR]

He talks about it a lot on his podcast. Especially some older ones. He is not on the newer ones as much.

Heck, on this particular podcast, right around the 12:00 mark he clearly says his target market is the wealthy business owner type looking for a shortcut. He almost says that word for word! He later goes on to literally say his system was “designed for the guy who has the job, but doesn’t have the time.” He clearly infers these guys don’t have the time to practice extensively so his products make it easier. His customer, has chosen not to “make this their thing” (his words!) referencing shooting practice, so his products makes them good enough to be competent. He actually said that! Sorry, if thinking that is wrong is judgmental, I’m judgmental af! I turned it off after hearing all that nonsense.

I fully understand the convenience business model. My own business is largely built around the concept of convenience. But to me, there are some things sacred that need to be learned organically and without a shortcut. Shooting, especially shooting 1000 damn yards, is one of them!

 

[Flyjunky]

Aaron literally discusses how long they've been offering training and teaching to their customers. They've been at it I'd bet longer than "Form" has been a presence on the web.

People not even listening to what the guy talked about and then bashing him over it. Don't make no sense and doesn't help your cause.

Exactly, highly doubt Aaaron says “here is your gun, don’t worry about practicing, wind skills, or anything else…just go kill stuff.

 

[BCDJR]

Seems to me if you don’t want to shoot anything over 500 yards then don’t buy a gun with more reach. Maybe a 30-30 or a 45-70. But don’t criticize folks who want something better.

Also lots of cars go 140 mph so don’t buy those either.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

So good, post again Aaron. Let’s keep it going

 

[deerhunter628]

Heck, on this particular podcast, right around the 12:00 mark he clearly says his target market is the wealthy business owner type looking for a shortcut. He almost says that word for word! He later goes on to literally say his system was “designed for the guy who has the job, but doesn’t have the time.” He clearly infers these guys don’t have the time to practice extensively so his products make it easier. His customer, has chosen not to “make this their thing” (his words!) so his products makes them good enough to be competent. He actually said that! Sorry, if thinking that is wrong is judgmental, I’m judgmental af! I turned it off after hearing all that nonsense.

I fully understand the convenience business model. My own business is largely built around the concept of convenience. But to me, there are some things sacred that need to be learned organically and without a shortcut. Shooting, especially shooting 1000 damn yards, is one of them!

I take that as the easy button meaning: they mount the scope correctly, do the load development, load the ammo, sight it in. All of that would save a lot of time. I think you are trying to find a reason to find fault in Aaron and Gunwerks for some reason.

 

[SDHNTR]

Some things just shouldn’t have an easy button.

 

[HuntHarder]

Davidson is an Awesome guest in my opinion. Very candid, non PC and has his own opinions. I enjoyed Ryan's podcast with him.

 

[huntnful]

Good couple of podcasts. You literally can’t be good and understanding of all aspects of your life. Everyone has taken a million shortcuts that other people have built into their lives. Some much more important than killing an animal.

We put it on such a huge pedastal because that’s all we might think about. But we’re judging while using electronics we you couldn’t even build 1% of and have something that functions.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with putting together a proper system, selling it, and encouraging the purchasers to learn to use the equipments via a course. Just like almost everything else in life. You either built the system and completely understand it, or buy the system that someone else built and understands.

What the user decides after the purchase is on them.