Questions for Form and other "small caliber for big game" folks

[Skinnyguts]

I’m actually worried that the little gun crowd is flinching a lot while bird hunting with anything above 410. 7/8 oz 20 gauge loads recoil as much as a 270, and 1 oz matches a 7 mag. I keep telling my bird hunting friends they must be flinching every time they mis.

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Grasp at straws much?

 

[TaperPin]

Grasp at straws much?

I’m a very caring person - just looking out for my fellow man. Castle rock, Form, Eric and others have confirmed that shotguns cause horrible flinching. Their words not mine. Just go up a page or two. After input from them, I’m more concerned than ever that shotguns are hurting peoples’ rifle shooting. Apparently, according to them, the average shooter should not even use target loads in a 20 or 12 ga. That sucks. Those of us that find that silly, enjoy shotguns.

 

[Castle Rock]

Like a broken record

 

[HandgunHTR]

I’m a very caring person - just looking out for my fellow man. Castle rock, Form, Eric and others have confirmed that shotguns cause horrible flinching. Their words not mine. Just go up a page or two. After input from them, I’m more concerned than ever that shotguns are hurting peoples’ rifle shooting. Apparently, according to them, the average shooter should not even use target loads in a 20 or 12 ga. That sucks. Those of us that find that silly, enjoy shotguns.

You continue to completely ignore the fact that shooting a shotgun and shooting a rifle take very different mechanics.

Also, just like with rifles, only the best shooters get better, or at least stay the same as the rounds go on. I wonder why?

 

[AZ_Hunter]

If you need them drt, then stick with your magnum caliber, if you have no constraints shoot them with small calibers.

I haven’t seen one die in an acceptable time with 25 so far in our group in 6.5 or smaller. They all die, leave little to no blood trail and end up 50-100 yards from poi. Which is completely unacceptable for me. I’d archery hunt if I wanted to track.

My last elk hunt had two elk down with 6.5cm. My rifle is a 16” using 130 TMK and my buddy was using a Howa (22”?) with Hornady CX, I forget the grain. Both dropped their hind end at first shot, and took another shot into lungs probably within 2 seconds or so. Range of 300 yards (302 technically for me). Upon dressing, first shots on both elk were high lung, but spine not hit. Second shots were lower. Lungs were trashed from both projectiles. Both of us recovered one bullet in the offside hide, with the recovered 130 TMK weighing about 70gr. The damage of the TMK was almost too much. Lung soup and the entire side of the animal was bloodshot.

What bullet was used in your 6.5 experience?