Carrying a pistol while scouting

[Pikespeak]

We camp in a small tent and fish/scout. Hard to make sure they wouldn’t have access. Far more kids are killed with unsecured guns than bears and mountain lions. When was the last time a bear or lion killed a kid in Colorado? I realize it is hard to keep emotion from overtaking the fact the kids are in more danger if I do carry Without a secure way to store my pistol.

I can’t stand kids, it’s not emotional. You are twisting singular data points to justify your opinion. Why limiting to just CO? You want to limit attack data based on one state but expand child firearm accidents across the board? You would at least want to compare the same regional scale and a percent, not a count. Even then it would be weak since people leaving guns around the house for extended periods would be a lot different then you carrying one in the woods.

A 9 year old was attacked last week in WA and peruse this link of lion deaths and you’ll see a large chunk are children.

List of fatal cougar attacks in North America - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Prob doesn’t mean much in isolation but let’s not act like some of your hand picked data points mean much either. I’m all for you having your own opinion but calling anyone who sees that your data is weak “emotional” is one of these west coast underhanded comments that leaves room for deniability when called out….but you know that.

 

[Antares]

They make a bino pouch that attaches to the front using the Molle webbing.

Range finder clips on the molle on my right side, I use the molle in the middle behind the bino pouch for pens, knife, tourniquet and whatever, molle on the left side has a call or two attached..

Here's mine:
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Serious question: If you're wearing a t-shirt doesn't the harness on your HPG kit bag starting riding up and trying to saw through the back of your neck, especially with all that weight you've got packed in there?

Mine sure did. I liked the bag, but thought the harness could definitely use some work. If I was wearing a hooded top it was ok because the hood kept if off my neck. I only found it tolerably comfortable with a pistol in it and not much else, just because of the harness issues. I moved on to a holster under my Marsupial bino harness.

 

[*zap*]

You can clip the hpg bag to your shoulder straps...then they will bear the weight.

 

[CoStick]

I can’t stand kids, it’s not emotional. You are twisting singular data points to justify your opinion. Why limiting to just CO? You want to limit attack data based on one state but expand child firearm accidents across the board? You would at least want to compare the same regional scale and a percent, not a count. Even then it would be weak since people leaving guns around the house for extended periods would be a lot different then you carrying one in the woods.

A 9 year old was attacked last week in WA and peruse this link of lion deaths and you’ll see a large chunk are children.

List of fatal cougar attacks in North America - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Prob doesn’t mean much in isolation but let’s not act like some of your hand picked data points mean much either. I’m all for you having your own opinion but calling anyone who sees that your data is weak “emotional” is one of these west coast underhanded comments that leaves room for deniability when called out….but you know that.

I didn’t hand pick data, compare your list to kids injured or killed by firearms. I am not the one getting emotional on this thread. Apparently how my family enjoys the outdoors doesn’t fall into a favorable light on here, I totally fine with that.

 

[OregonSteeler]

I didn’t hand pick data, compare your list to kids injured or killed by firearms. I am not the one getting emotional on this thread. Apparently how my family enjoys the outdoors doesn’t fall into a favorable light on here, I totally fine with that.

You don't need to justify why or why not you want to carry. It's your choice so don't let anyone on here sway your personal values or mindset. It doesn't matter what statistics you prioritize and quote, you're going to get people on both sides agreeing and disagreeing with you.

Just do what you feel is comfortable for you and your family and leave it at that.

 

[TRD1911]

+1 for the gunfighter Kenai chest holster. Been carrying a G20 in mine for about 4 years now. It's very comfortable and sits well behind my Marsupial harness. Can still be drawn from behind the harness and while carrying a pack.

The OP asked how you carry; not whether you don't trust your kids around a pistol, why you chose not to carry or what his reasoning for is.

Also, I don't seek confirmation bias amd generally appreciate opposing opinions but after reading the posts of some on here I'm real worried about the future of the 2A. When anti sentiments creeps into even the hunting community we're screwed.

 

[Ratbeetle]

Speaking just for myself here, but I certainly don't care how anyone enjoys the outdoors, I just don't understand not carrying the means to protect your family.

My decision to carry is far from emotional and is calculated after actually seeing the aftermath of extreme violence. I've also come across some very sketchy people in the backcountry whose intentions were suspect at best. As a father and a husband, I want to be able to protect my family from anything that would threaten them.

I realize the odds of needing a firearm may be low but the stakes are going to be incredibly high if you do need it.

 

[LongWayAround]

Glock 19 in an Ivory holster for me.

It is very secure and the gun is definitely not coming out unless I draw it.

 

[Pikespeak]

I didn’t hand pick data, compare your list to kids injured or killed by firearms. I am not the one getting emotional on this thread. Apparently how my family enjoys the outdoors doesn’t fall into a favorable light on here, I totally fine with that.

I fully support it being your choice in the end.

 

[def90]

Serious question: If you're wearing a t-shirt doesn't the harness on your HPG kit bag starting riding up and trying to saw through the back of your neck, especially with all that weight you've got packed in there?

Mine sure did. I liked the bag, but thought the harness could definitely use some work. If I was wearing a hooded top it was ok because the hood kept if off my neck. I only found it tolerably comfortable with a pistol in it and not much else, just because of the harness issues. I moved on to a holster under my Marsupial bino harness.

I’ve never had that problem. The harness should be tight, if it’s riding up you’ve got to pull in the straps. Same as wearing any kind of a plate carrier or military chest rig. The rig should be on secure enough that it moves with your body, if it’s flopping around or sagging down you don’t have it set up correctly.

People have a tendency to wear chest rigs/plate carriers too low which means they will bounce and move around.

 

[AZ_Hunter_2000]

Yeah, the rifle works really well, if it's ever called upon. My outfitter has a shotgun laying around, just in case. But neither of us pack a pistol when were in the 30's and 40's units.

A rifle works well when a group or individual is at a distance or lined up nice and neat.

A rifle sucks when you bust a group up close, an unknown number take off, and a handful stay and fan out, follow you a few yards away for a long distance to your vehicle, all the while looking for an opening.

Got BP on-site with the butt heads still there and got confirmation they were MS-13 at a later date (friend is BP in that sector).

 

[ThunderJack49]

So I’m going to Colorado to do a little scouting before season. Wondering how many people actually pack a pistol when scouting/bowhunting just in case you run into a bears or lions? If so what is your preference on how to carry the pistol? I would think that the holster would get in the way of the backpack, etc.

much appreciated.

A safariland UBL mid ride and a thigh strap are a great way to carry a pistol in the mountains without interfering with your pack. It's the only way I carry anymore.

 

[ThunderJack49]

Don't get me wrong, I have loaded pistols and revolvers and shotguns and rifles stashed everywhere in various towns I hang out at. But as far as in the backcountry, I either carry one of my rifles or nothing. I just don't see the practicality of carrying a glock or an AR-15 or a sawed off shotgun in the backcountry, as personal defense against other humans, or even wildlife, for that matter. Of course, everyone dreams of being the next Steven Seagal, Jason Bourne, or Chris Kyle (lol).

Why is a rifle valid but not a Glock?

 

[jimh406]

I have no idea how many people carry while outdoors, but most Western states have an exception to carry handguns while doing outside pursuits. So, check the state rules, and if you feel comfortable carrying, carry. I’d also consider carrying bear spray.

 

[Mykolaivka887]

Why is a rifle valid but not a Glock?

Because I hunt with a rifle, not a Glock.

 

[OregonSteeler]

Been doing a lot of research on what holsters I can put on the strap of my Exo hip belt. I'm looking at the Crossbreed supertuck IWB and just switching around the clips. Anyone try this?

Unfortunately my pistol is not very common (Bersa), so only a limited out of manufacturers have holster for my model.

Hopefully this will also help OP on his original question....

 

[Grundy53]

I carry more for the 2 legged vermin then the 4 legged critters. Tweakers are unpredictable.

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Don't get me wrong, I have loaded pistols and revolvers and shotguns and rifles stashed everywhere in various towns I hang out at.

 

[grfox92]

I carry in the shower. So yes I will carry while scouting also.

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[MattB]

No. No, she absolutely could not. I would have to be dead.

I've lost count of how many backcountry trips we've had now. She is 4 and we've been doing multi-day trips since before her first birthday. Not once has this situation even come remotely close to happening.

Your child has never woken up while you were sleeping?