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I don't know what you are going through, but I will give you the same brutal honesty I give my patients. It is not uplifting, but it is lessons I have earned the hard way. Hopefully it is overkill, I appreciate what I learned, but I would not wish the process on anyone.
I should also add, there are times when what follows is not appropriate (though it remains true). If you feel in danger of hurting yourself right now:
-Make a solemn oath to yourself that 'no one takes my life without one hell of a fight, and that includes myself.'
-Call someone you trust and if you don't have someone to call, dial 911.
-Stop reading and come back to this when you are in a better place.
You can make it through this, but there is no guarantee that you will. I will not lie and say otherwise.
You must be willing to seek help, both professional and personal.
You must dig deep and find what matters too you.
You have to find what you can draw strength from and people that can give you support.
You have to cut ties with those who drag you down.
You have to recognize that many times the road is long, there will be set backs and you will be knocked down.
You have to find the grit to face your own failures and drag yourself on no matter how bad it gets.
You have to be aware of the long road, but not fixate on it.
You have to know what the destination is, or at least have an idea of what it is.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
How do you start a journey of 1000 miles? With a single step. You can always take one more step, focus on that and worry about the step that comes after that one when it comes time to take it.
Break the rock.
This term refers to the cumulative stress in a large rock as you hit it with a sledge hammer. Rarely do you see it develop, but when the rock breaks after hundreds of blows it is not the final blow that broke it, but rather the sum of them all.
Invictus by William Earnest Henley
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
Henley was paralyzed from polio at the time he wrote that, seeing as he lived from 1849 to 1903 it is safe to say being a paraplegic was probably rougher then than it is now.
The Night
The world is cold and black and dark to those who always chase the sun, their days spent in fear of coming night, their nights filled with fearful shivers as they hide from shadows. We cannot change the world, but we can bring light to the fearful; but thus must we remember, we do not survive the night to live another day, rather we are given the days that we may have the strength to enter the darkness and lift the fallen. And perhaps they will lift us when we stumble or we may be left to our own fortitude to drag our broken souls to shelter; but even then we shall take heart in the ghosts of others who have marked the trail with sweat and blood and tears and we too shall leave the path more worn for those who follow, or serve as warnings not to falter.
I should also add, there are times when what follows is not appropriate (though it remains true). If you feel in danger of hurting yourself right now:
-Make a solemn oath to yourself that 'no one takes my life without one hell of a fight, and that includes myself.'
-Call someone you trust and if you don't have someone to call, dial 911.
-Stop reading and come back to this when you are in a better place.
You can make it through this, but there is no guarantee that you will. I will not lie and say otherwise.
You must be willing to seek help, both professional and personal.
You must dig deep and find what matters too you.
You have to find what you can draw strength from and people that can give you support.
You have to cut ties with those who drag you down.
You have to recognize that many times the road is long, there will be set backs and you will be knocked down.
You have to find the grit to face your own failures and drag yourself on no matter how bad it gets.
You have to be aware of the long road, but not fixate on it.
You have to know what the destination is, or at least have an idea of what it is.
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
How do you start a journey of 1000 miles? With a single step. You can always take one more step, focus on that and worry about the step that comes after that one when it comes time to take it.
Break the rock.
This term refers to the cumulative stress in a large rock as you hit it with a sledge hammer. Rarely do you see it develop, but when the rock breaks after hundreds of blows it is not the final blow that broke it, but rather the sum of them all.
Invictus by William Earnest Henley
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
Henley was paralyzed from polio at the time he wrote that, seeing as he lived from 1849 to 1903 it is safe to say being a paraplegic was probably rougher then than it is now.
The Night
The world is cold and black and dark to those who always chase the sun, their days spent in fear of coming night, their nights filled with fearful shivers as they hide from shadows. We cannot change the world, but we can bring light to the fearful; but thus must we remember, we do not survive the night to live another day, rather we are given the days that we may have the strength to enter the darkness and lift the fallen. And perhaps they will lift us when we stumble or we may be left to our own fortitude to drag our broken souls to shelter; but even then we shall take heart in the ghosts of others who have marked the trail with sweat and blood and tears and we too shall leave the path more worn for those who follow, or serve as warnings not to falter.
Robster
Lil-Rokslider
A guy I worked with was in a dark place and no one knew.
He took his life.
A man I greatly respect made a comment I will NEVER forget.
"Taking your life is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
I have never forgotten his words. I do not know what you are going through, but I have been through dark times as well. Please take the advice of the above poster.
He took his life.
A man I greatly respect made a comment I will NEVER forget.
"Taking your life is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
I have never forgotten his words. I do not know what you are going through, but I have been through dark times as well. Please take the advice of the above poster.
Laelkhunter
WKR
Hopefully, you are referring to the end of the Hunting season, and the fact that it is about 40 weeks before the next season. BUT if it something more serious, and you have doubts how to cope, PLEASE contact Professional help such as Clergy, a close friend that you trust, or someone that will listen. Life can go on, and we can work though anything. There is a viable solution to every situation.
The offseason is long but we always make it, year after year.
But if that is not what you are referring to. Please take a look around and contact them. There are plenty of people to talk to and help.
Mental Health Support Canada
But if that is not what you are referring to. Please take a look around and contact them. There are plenty of people to talk to and help.
Mental Health Support Canada
Squamch
WKR
If you mean hunting season, bear opens in 4.5 months, and the fishing ain't bad right now.
If you mean life, find something to do. Build a car, or bike. Renovate a room. Do something that requires all your attention. Something you can fall asleep thinking about the next step, or next ten steps. Work out, start running, lifting, whatever. Get too tired to have a pity party. Stay away from self help books, they just help people see more things wrong with them.
If you mean life, find something to do. Build a car, or bike. Renovate a room. Do something that requires all your attention. Something you can fall asleep thinking about the next step, or next ten steps. Work out, start running, lifting, whatever. Get too tired to have a pity party. Stay away from self help books, they just help people see more things wrong with them.
Dos Perros
WKR
Whatever you're going through: this, too, shall pass.
You only get one ride on this speeding spinning rock -- you gotta make it count. Head up, one foot in front of the other, day by day, whatever it takes.
You only get one ride on this speeding spinning rock -- you gotta make it count. Head up, one foot in front of the other, day by day, whatever it takes.
*zap*
WKR
control your rudder with thought & word.
use your tools: people, thoughts, words.
say it out loud and use the power of the spoken word.
conquer what is right in front of you, the rest will work out when you get to it.
use your tools: people, thoughts, words.
say it out loud and use the power of the spoken word.
conquer what is right in front of you, the rest will work out when you get to it.
I'm very impressed. It takes a brave person to be honest and say how they are really feeling. When I'm going through a rough time, I find it helps a lot to try and do more stuff for others. It takes my focus off of myself. And it really brings me joy to help others. It doesn't have to be huge stuff. Raking leaves for a neighbor or going to the grocery store for someone who is older or whatever. There are lots of people who can use our help. And they may not be confident enough or comfortable asking for help. But, they are out there.
And if you are feeling like you are getting to a dangerous place. Reach out for professional help. My wife went through some pretty severe depression several years ago. She was saying some of the same things you are saying. But, she went and talked to a counselor and was able to get better. It was hard for her to admit she needed someones help. Like most of us, she didn't want to feel dependent on someone else. But, it made a huge difference in her life, my life, and our kids life.
Best of luck. Keep posting here on Rokslide. If you are a hunter, you are my brother.
Whenever I get down I find something productive to do that I enjoy and requires all my attention and focus. Things like read a book, woodworking, go for a run, make fishing lures, teach my dog something new, etc.
If things are really bad please call a help line, contact clergy at your church or any church.
BuckHunter24
Lil-Rokslider
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My MIL says this all the time and it is always true. Everyone helps it pass in different ways. Exercise, good books (McManus etc), no alcohol are helpful to me. Make sure what you're reading, watching on TV or listening to on the radio is uplifting. As others have said, if its really bad or gets really bad reach out to professional or religious counsel to help it pass.
EastHumboldt
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BiggMc... don't keep us in suspense buddy. You OK? There's some good advice in the previous posts. I'm 62 years old and have been through a lot of joy and pain in that time. The dark times bring a specialness to the happier times. Going through them gives a person depth and empathy they might not otherwise have. I remember waking up one day about 2-3 years after my very painful divorce and thinking "Hey... I don't feel like throwing up or bawling... Wow" Hang in there man.
Seasonal Affective, COVID, whack economy...the list goes on.
There are times when feeling like crap is justified. And it passes. It always does.
It makes us grateful for the better times. And these is ALWAYS something to be grateful for every single day. You just need to find it and acknowledge it.
Watch for HALT: Hungry/Angry/Lonely/Tired. Makes it more difficult to manage when we add in those stressors.
And if the Black Dog won't stop growling, reach out for help.
There are times when feeling like crap is justified. And it passes. It always does.
It makes us grateful for the better times. And these is ALWAYS something to be grateful for every single day. You just need to find it and acknowledge it.
Watch for HALT: Hungry/Angry/Lonely/Tired. Makes it more difficult to manage when we add in those stressors.
And if the Black Dog won't stop growling, reach out for help.
BiggMc - Lots of good advice and support in here. Remember your presence is a gift. I saw your post recently about visiting Michigan. As far as I know US and Canada jointly closed the border for C19er. But as soon as it opens lets meet for coffee and plan something. Rabbit hunt, walleye or steelhead outing, alpine skiing or just view some elk up in the PRC. PM me any time.
Edit; And yes I’ve been there, and back. You can do it too.
Edit; And yes I’ve been there, and back. You can do it too.
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As a VietNam era infantry combat veteran I can relate to how you feel. How I get through it? One day, one hour at a time, it WILL get better. Find someone you’re comfortable talking to, it helps. Do something, doesn’t matter what as long as you are accomplishing something positive. I reload rifle and pistol ammo, gives me positive feedback seeing the new rounds and again when I hit the range.
I’ve been asked about feelings of suicide, never have, never will be an option. Problems are temporary, death is permanent. If you are or have considered it, think of this, would you want your mother, wife, son or daughter to have to deal with the aftermath of it? How would you feel if they were to do it? IT SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION, EVER!
I’ve been asked about feelings of suicide, never have, never will be an option. Problems are temporary, death is permanent. If you are or have considered it, think of this, would you want your mother, wife, son or daughter to have to deal with the aftermath of it? How would you feel if they were to do it? IT SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION, EVER!
thinhorn_AK
"DADDY"
Yeah violent stories of death, destruction and threats of eternity in hell are going to save a guy....may as well read a Quran....
String&stick
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If anxiety is a big issue, professional help and some meds can do wonders to balance things out.
I'm not one to push meds at anyone but I've seen it with family and if done right it can work wonders. If you're anxiety is a big issue find a doctor that is willing to let you start on the lowest dose of some meds. I've had family do this and slowly working up to where the meds are helping take the edge off of anxiety but not making you numb is much better than starting with a med to high dose and working down.
Life is always worth it, and there are tons of things to help if you're struggling!
I'm not one to push meds at anyone but I've seen it with family and if done right it can work wonders. If you're anxiety is a big issue find a doctor that is willing to let you start on the lowest dose of some meds. I've had family do this and slowly working up to where the meds are helping take the edge off of anxiety but not making you numb is much better than starting with a med to high dose and working down.
Life is always worth it, and there are tons of things to help if you're struggling!
mattferg84
WKR
But I guarantee youre going to still celebrate Christmas. Weird.....
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