.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Midway has 88 ELDM seconds for 15 cents each: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020885249?pid=440583

Anyone ever try ELD-M seconds? Any reason not to stock up on them?

 

[waspocrew]

Anyone ever try ELD-M seconds? Any reason not to stock up on them?

Mine have been fine - I've tried the 147s as well as the 285s. No problems. At most, the jackets have been a little discolored here or there, but for the most part, couldn't really tell they were blems. On target, I found no difference either.

 

[Thegman]

Midway has 88 ELDM seconds for 15 cents each: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020885249?pid=440583

Anyone have experience with 88s at 16" 223 type velocities, whatever those might be?

I've only tried a couple of loads with 2000MR and velocity was only 2,450ish. I would think it could do somewhat better than that, but maybe not much at 2.318", which is long as I can go without windowing my AR mags.

 

[Shotgunman28]

Building a 6mm pro anyone got any load data or experience with the 95 TMK?

 

[Tell]

Anyone ever try ELD-M seconds? Any reason not to stock up on them?

That’s what I’ve got. They shoot fine.

 

[Kimber7man]

Haven't looked it up, but think this will be ok: 77 or 88's out of a 22 creed for cow elk in Wyoming? We can usually get to within 150-200 yards.

 

[letrbuck]

Haven't looked it up, but think this will be ok: 77 or 88's out of a 22 creed for cow elk in Wyoming? We can usually get to within 150-200 yards.

Can legally only use 22 cals for deer and pronghorn in WY unfortunately

 

[atmat]

Can legally only use 22 cals for deer and pronghorn in WY unfortunately

Correct:


Source for @Kimber7man : https://wgfd.wyo.gov/media/29250/download?inline

 

[ztc92]

Haven't looked it up, but think this will be ok: 77 or 88's out of a 22 creed for cow elk in Wyoming? We can usually get to within 150-200 yards.

Recently moved to WY. I built a 6.5-Creed for elk hunting due to this. That said, I think the best answer if you want lightweight and low recoiling but still legal for Elk in WY is a 6ARC or a 6-Creed. The fast twist 243 also is a great option if you reload.

 

[Kimber7man]

Can legally only use 22 cals for deer and pronghorn in WY unfortunately

Thanks!

 

[waspocrew]

It's a bummer on the 22 Creed for elk in Wyoming. Our ranch has plenty of elk running around and I'd have no problem taking them out with the 22 Creed. I have 4 whitetail doe tags, 1 doe antelope, and 1 buck antelope tag... the 22 Creed will be used on at least a few of these.

 

[fwafwow]

Correct:
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Source for @Kimber7man : https://wgfd.wyo.gov/media/29250/download?inline

Awesome. I had planned an elk trip to Wyoming this year, and I had known of the 0.24” minimum. But the trip is now for deer, and I had not looked back to the rule and assumed I was taking my S20. Now I learned I can take my 16.5” RSS. Sweet!

 

[atmat]

It's a bummer on the 22 Creed for elk in Wyoming. Our ranch has plenty of elk running around and I'd have no problem taking them out with the 22 Creed. I have 4 whitetail doe tags, 1 doe antelope, and 1 buck antelope tag... the 22 Creed will be used on at least a few of these.

Huge bummer.

If you need me to bring the 6creed up to help with the elk, gimme a holler.

 

[mt terry d]

It's a bummer on the 22 Creed for elk in Wyoming. Our ranch has plenty of elk running around and I'd have no problem taking them out with the 22 Creed. I have 4 whitetail doe tags, 1 doe antelope, and 1 buck antelope tag... the 22 Creed will be used on at least a few of these.

How often has anyone had their rifle checked for caliber by LE?

When I was a kid in Wisconsin we couldn't use anything other shotguns with slugs below Hiway 29. I remember seeing several guys hunting with rifles.

 

[mt terry d]

75 eldm 2650ish impact velocity. Hit a rib going in. Massive entrance wound. Cow didn’t go more than about 5 yards.

First Rockslide elk kill of 2024 with the Rockslide Special?
Ought to be some special prize for that like an autographed
picture or T-shirt from Ryan

 

[np307]

Need to get to work on the reloading bench, but in the mean time I'm just shooting 62gr since that's what the gold dots I shot last year were. Got together with some friends over the weekend and they had steel set up from 80 to 200, I ran the table no problem with my Ruger American Predator and SWFA 1-4. Only other thing I want to do is put a can on it and it'll be pretty much perfect for deer hunting around here.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

How often has anyone had their rifle checked for caliber by LE?

When I was a kid in Wisconsin we couldn't use anything other shotguns with slugs below Hiway 29. I remember seeing several guys hunting with rifles.

That's what I was wondering. We have a 6mm min in WA and I'm not going to break it, but in two checks with LE the last few years they've never asked or even looked at my rifle.

 

[atmat]

How often has anyone had their rifle checked for caliber by LE?

When I was a kid in Wisconsin we couldn't use anything other shotguns with slugs below Hiway 29. I remember seeing several guys hunting with rifles.

I’ve had my shotgun checked for maximum number of shells during bird season. But never had a rifle caliber checked.

 

[Formidilosus]

That's what I was wondering. We have a 6mm min in WA and I'm not going to break it, but in two checks with LE the last few years they've never asked or even looked at my rifle.

Something’s should remain quiet.

 

[Levi300wm]

Pressure signs on an AR will manifest very much like overgassing, i.e. brass ejecting at 12-3 o'clock, the bolt cycling "too fast" and not picking up a round or locking back on the last round.
As for crimping, I don't crimp any of my AR loads. If you plan on mag feeding and not shooting a bunch of times, maybe put a light crimp on it, but if you are shooting, a crimp isn't necessary, IMO.
Final thing about running heavies in ARs. Look at windowing a couple of your magazines. It will allow you to load longer and get the most performance out of those heavy bullets and your AR.

can you explain what you mean by "mag feeding" and "if im shooting no crimp necessary"? these will be shot only for hunting and anything else will be just "plinking ammo" so i have no issues modifying my hunting magazine