.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

RiffRaff

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Shoot enough to know that I'm not shooting a deer with a 223 if I don't have to. As far as my flawed logic as you put it I'm fine with admitting if I'm wrong and in this case I'm sure I am, like I have stated before still haven't read the thread all the way through. And as far as opinions they are like Assholes the world's full of them.
My fellow Tennessean- look about 10 pages back and I have my first post on this forum with three East TN mountain whitetail killed in a very similar manner with a 223/5.56. Pics and finger measurements of wound channels and all. I’m just one of many who’ve posted write ups here. Will be posting more come Nov
 

Deerfield

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Now that I have a few boxes of the 77 TMKs stocked up I need to find a rifle to shoot them out of, since my .223 has a slow twist.

I would like to put together a 22 Creed sometime in the future so I’m thinking about picking up a 1:8 .22-250 and shooting it for a while before either rechambering or rebarreling it. I would probably cut the barrel on the .22-250 down to 16.5 or 18 inches.

What would I be able to expect for speeds with the 77 TMK out of that short barrel .22-250? Any issues that I’m not thinking of with that setup?
 

kkp005

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Now that I have a few boxes of the 77 TMKs stocked up I need to find a rifle to shoot them out of, since my .223 has a slow twist.

I would like to put together a 22 Creed sometime in the future so I’m thinking about picking up a 1:8 .22-250 and shooting it for a while before either rechambering or rebarreling it. I would probably cut the barrel on the .22-250 down to 16.5 or 18 inches.

What would I be able to expect for speeds with the 77 TMK out of that short barrel .22-250? Any issues that I’m not thinking of with that setup?
I’m getting right a 3000fps with 36gr h4350 in a 18” 22-250 shooting 77gr tmk
 
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grfox92

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Have fun with those crimped primer pockets...
Can those crimps be removed with s chamfer tool? I've heard it can be, and tried on 308 but I think that pocket might be too large, maybe it will work on .223?

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ztc92

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Can those crimps be removed with s chamfer tool? I've heard it can be, and tried on 308 but I think that pocket might be too large, maybe it will work on .223?

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Yes they can but be warned, it is not fun.

I bought the tool linked below and did about 100 cases by hand, which was enough for me to say never again, especially when I realized about 20% of them were still too tight to take a primer correctly.

After that, I went to Ace Hardware, found a few nuts with with same thread pitch as the primer pocket reamer and then used my cordless drill to do about 300 more cases. That was significantly better but still sucked to do.

Moral of the story, it can definitely be done by hand (or with a drill) but I’m not sure I’ll do it again when it’s such a minimal cost to just buy brass without primer crimps from the start…

 

Jimbee

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Can those crimps be removed with s chamfer tool? I've heard it can be, and tried on 308 but I think that pocket might be too large, maybe it will work on .223?

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I bought the little bit that goes in my Lyman case prep tool. Super easy. You could probably just put it in a drill also.Screenshot_20230802_155204_Amazon Shopping.jpg
I was referring to this, not a hand tool. My bad
 
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Te Hopo

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I have the Lyman prep tool, I did 20 pieces of brass by hand and called it quits.
Now I use the reamer in a drill and I'll hoon through 100 or so pieces
 

ianpadron

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Anyone running 5.56 ammo through a .223 bolt gun?

Good deals on loaded 5.56 77 TMKs right now, guessing no biggie on a bolt gun but wanted to hear some first hand opinions.
 
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Anyone running 5.56 ammo through a .223 bolt gun?

Good deals on loaded 5.56 77 TMKs right now, guessing no biggie on a bolt gun but wanted to hear some first hand opinions.

Pretty much every chamber cut today whether the barrel is marked 223 or 5.56 is a Wylde chamber. It shoots anything.
 
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The AAC ammo shoots like ass compared to others. Both the SMK and TMK was 1.5-2.5MOA in both my DMR rifle and custom 223 that shoots 1/2-3/4 MOA or better with other factory match ammo.
 
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Dang, hoping it does better in a Tikka!

I’m using the rest to break in my new T3X SS Lite. I’ve only shot 40 rounds through it so far but it’s equally terrible out of it. I wasted my money and wouldn’t suggest others do, but if you want to, go for it.

A Tikka, a Larue match, and a custom with a Proof CF all shoot it like crap.
 

ianpadron

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I’m using the rest to break in my new T3X SS Lite. I’ve only shot 40 rounds through it so far but it’s equally terrible out of it. I wasted my money and wouldn’t suggest others do, but if you want to, go for it.

A Tikka, a Larue match, and a custom with a Proof CF all shoot it like crap.
Dang haha I ordered 5 boxes earlier after the first response. Fingers crossed! What kind of groups you seeing with the Tikka?
 
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There was nothing under 2" for 5 shot groups. I'm going back to the range tomorrow and shooting some Norma 77gr SMK, Berger 77gr OTM, Federal LE 55gr SGK, and Federal LE 77gr TMK that has shot well in the my other rifles to get a baseline with those.
 
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