So the single 22CM elk couldn’t have been a “tough” one?
And if you “had more daylight” the single lung shot from the 22CM would have been a dead elk.
How is it that you are unable to critically think about what you are “saying” and see the cognitive disconnect?
I didn’t say it would get you anything. It also doesn’t mean it would have cost you anything. Not one person is telling you that a 30cal mag with fragmenting bullets won’t kill elk. You, along with
@Ucsdryder are doing that, yet have extremely limited experience with the smaller caliber, optimized bullets that are being discussed; or in his case-none.
It’s baffling how an intelligent person would make declarative statements about something not working, when they have no experience base using that item, and in-spite of the reality that those with the lots of experience are not only nearly unanimous in saying it works well- but post extremely detailed information about how it works, in some cases with hundreds of pictures.
I know that 338cal heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
I know that 30cal heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
I know that 7mm heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
I know that 6.5 mm heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
I know that 6mm heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
I know that .224 heavy fragmenting bullets kill well- I have done it repeatedly.
Notice- “I have done it repeatedly” is stated. Not- “I did it one time” or “I have never done it”. And not allowing for “x” outcome with one caliber, but not allowing it for all.
Now I don’t have 66 5point Roosevelt bulls- my “best” season was 20 elk- but I have and do use all of those listed above, and directly witness others do as well (all the way to 50 BMG), and the definitive statements made about “bigger better” has not and does not play out when seen in large sample sizes side by side, across the board at all ranges and situations… and when people aren’t allowed to cherry pick.
No one can watch the videos from impact to time of incapacitation (down and unmoving) and say which elk were shot with .224’s, and which were shot with 300 mags. What data does show is that as recoil and muzzle blast goes up, on average the amount of rodeos and wounded animals also go up.