Gotcha! Makes perfect sense. That’s exactly what my 6 PRC is for as well. No recoil and I plan to have my daughter start wreaking havoc with it shortly. It’s a very capable cartridge. And an easy and fun little wildcat.
What bullet ?
Still probably a steeper fine than using smaller than 6mm on elk in Calorado
No ive shot many many elk and understand they dont always go down in one shot with a big gun with a good bullet. Common sense tells you smaller will not make it better. I gave it one go with a 22 creedmoor with almost perfect environment and did not perform. Where a 30 cal dropped that same elk instantly. Night and day difference between the guns
230 a tip
You just told me the Berger 215 hybrid is a horrible bullet but I had had the same scenario as you? Bull soaked up 4 bullets but was dead with the first shot. Hard to know until you skin/gut them. Shoot what you will cause I could care less but like form said, be honest.
I told a story of a bull I shot last year with 215 bergers. All 4 shots hit him in the lungs. In retrospect the first shot killed him but I keep shooting just as you do. Then you said bergers are terrible. Maybe a tips suck cause you had to shoot 4 times? I've shot a lot of animals with the 215 and never experienced penciling or blowing up. I don't shoot hundreds of elk/ year either so maybe you're right.
I shot a mule deer with a 2 inch mechanical broadhead and he died within 30 seconds. Another buck took 3 180 hybrids in the chest cavity before he died. Does that mean the arrow and broadhead I used are more lethal and effective than the 7 SAUM I used?
This buck went 5 yards. 2” SEVR
Could have been tough one. Then why did 230 a tip stone it? When i say tough one im comparing same guns bullets and wounds. 22 creedmoor could have killed the elk with more time. But i didnt have it. In that exact scenario the bigger gun gave the edge. Your guys argument is follow up shots. This dude never killed anything at 700 yards and in low light was able to stack 4 rounds. Im not arguing you cannot kill a elk with a small gun im arguing theres a better tool just practice more with it. As for archery the wound is apples to oranges. That being said ive killed two bulls with arrrows still in them. I gave 22 creed a chance it wasn’t impressive it did exactly what i expected it to do. As a kid i hunted with 25/06 with corelokts when they were popular. I never killed a bull one shot. But plenty with 300 win mag and corelokts went down in one shot. Maybe im biased on it since i can shoot big magnums small and watch my impacts so i dont see the reason to go down in size.
I can’t tell which is more lethal either, so I’m going to keep using both. I agree that killing more to add more data points is important. Every animal and situation is different.
Can you provide some details on the 22CM shot? You said it did not perform. How did it not perform?
@barehandlineman now you’ve woken the self appointed know it all. You’ll quickly learn, I assume you already have, that his experience is all the matters. He can shoot an animal 5 times including a coup de grace, and it’s just an animal that’s tuned up. So there’s never a failure, and he can’t be wrong. There always a reason, a way to explain away what happens. When he gets stuck, he gets aggressive and starts answering questions with questions, insulting people’s intelligence and experience. Falling back on his “I’m black and white, I don’t have emotion or feelings”.
@barehandlineman now you’ve woken the self appointed know it all. You’ll quickly learn, I assume you already have, that his experience is all the matters. He can shoot an animal 5 times including a coup de grace, and it’s just an animal that’s tuned up. So there’s never a failure, and he can’t be wrong. There always a reason, a way to explain away what happens. When he gets stuck, he gets aggressive and starts answering questions with questions, insulting people’s intelligence and experience. Falling back on his “I’m black and white, I don’t have emotion or feelings”.
Keep it up and he’ll start cherry picking google definitions to throw at you to show how smart he is, until he gets called out.
He’ll happily assume things like “you have no experience with X” just to prove a point, whether it’s truE or not, then when proven wrong just move on.
It’s too bad his social and communication skills are so poor because he does actually have good information to share. But his inability to do it makes him…well him. At some point you just ignore him, I’m still working on getting to that point.
