Depends on the situation obviously. With the way 4 point applicants landed, special pool had over 3x better odds at the tag via PP and a little bump in odds with the random as well. Going into next year's draw with 5 points in standard draw isn't going to be a slam dunk either and special is going to cost a lot more.. I'm quite happy that I decided to apply in special w/ 4.
I drew a tag last year with 4 pts in the special as well. My post was definitely not meant to question anyone’s strategy, only to point out how the odds have greatly converged between reg and special and that the special doesn’t offer the big leg up that it used to in terms of odds. Congratulations and good luck this year to all that drew.
Nothing for me. I was in the special with no points for a LE tag, so no surprise.Starting the thread for the year so as people draw later this week I'll be constantly reminded how jealous and petty I am (assuming I don't draw). If I do actually draw I most definitely will not brag about it to those that didn't get a tag.....
Anyway, lets get the conversation going. Who expects to draw what? Who just can't wait to get their money back from WyFG? My wife will be happy when they refund my 3 grand.
I'd like to hurry about and find out the results so I can plan deer/antelope in Wyoming and California/Arizona deer. I wish we still got results early so I could better plan Colorado, Utah, and Nevada.
Okay, I misunderstood the question.
You are correct. That is the reason for next years price increase to apply in the special.only to point out how the odds have greatly converged between reg and special and that the special doesn’t offer the big leg up that it used to in terms of odds.
Riddle me this, the updated draw odds report shows Issued tags are about 50% or less of the Quota.
Did they end up cutting tags due to the winter? The Unit we put in for jumped a full point this year.
In 2025 you will be able to see the draw odds for 2024. ;-)Can't wait to see what odds show for general tag in 2024. Good luck to those who drew for this year!
You are correct. That is the reason for next years price increase to apply in the special.
You have me considering entering special for the first time ever. lolMore pointedly, so outfitter's clients can have better odds than the DIY guy who they suspect will be less likely to pay the premium. @ $2k I might tap out but I might keep at it and if I get drawn I can smile thinking about how it didn't go to a potential outfitter client.
YesOh boy is September going to be busy. Already planned an OTC hunt with some buddies and happened to pull a general tag with 1 point on the random. Preference points still drop to 0 if you pull your first choice on the random correct?
WordHow in the fkty fk did 4 not draw in GeN this year!! Damn all the people affecting point creep! Some BS for damn sure! Im a little pissed right now. I see now a lot of us didnt draw with 4.
I hear you and am right there with you. Might price me out, but may not. Won't decide till Jan. Also won't be going with an outfitter if I draw. IMO I don't see it working out the way the outfitters anticipate. There is an awful lot of diehard DIY hunters that will pony up money if it increases odds. Probably you and me included in that group.More pointedly, so outfitter's clients can have better odds than the DIY guy who they suspect will be less likely to pay the premium. @ $2k I might tap out but I might keep at it and if I get drawn I can smile thinking about how it didn't go to a potential outfitter client.
I forgot to add in the Special and Random, makes sense now.Quota on the demand report is the quota for that hunt.