"You can't use a gun for self-protection..."

[scattergun]

Having worked with the RCMP for 17 years I would say you are clueless. Violent crime is getting worse every year in Canada and is a big issue.

And it would be a far bigger issue if everyone was anxiously walking around with guns.

I’m not saying that Canada doesn’t have problems, but it’s still significantly less violent than the USA by any measure, especially when it comes to gun deaths.

 

[Billinsd]

I’m not saying that Canada doesn’t have problems, but it’s still significantly less violent than the USA by any measure, especially when it comes to gun deaths.

You can't compare Canada to the US for many things, it's not apples to apples. The black population in Canada I read was 3%, it's 8% in the US. Blacks commit over 60% of the gun crime in the US. If the US had 3% blacks would our gun crime drop more than half? Probably. The US has more densely packed and bigger cities too that increases gun crime.

 

[Texasbuckeye]

The AA population in the US is actually around 12-14%, and in inner cities where the vast majority of gun crime takes place it is much higher by percent. I am not trying to say the gun crime issue in the US is all a “black” problem, but when you take away suicide, gang violence and gun crime are a problem that is largely plaguing the inner cities, and certain cities at that. Take away Chicago. detroit, baltimore, DC, and LA, and the vast majority if gun crime goes away. Probably missed a couple of cities in there, but the point stands, for the average person in the US, the risk of a gun crime being perpetrated on them is very very very low. Move to the inner city of democratic controlled cities, and you enter a whole new world, a subculture of the US where risk goes way higher.


Edit: CBS News listsl stats of per capital murders in the US rank 1-10:
St Louis 64.5/100,000
Baltimore 58.25/100,000
Birmingham AL 50.6/100,000
Detroit 41.5/100,000
Dayton OH 34/100,000
Baton Rouge LA 31.7/100,000
New Orleans 30.6/100,000
Kansas City MO 30/100,000
Memphis TN 29/100,000
Cleveland 24/100,000

#13 DC 23/100,000
#28 Chicago 18/100,000 (they get around this number by including all the metro areas under different names)

Somehow LA wasn't even on this list, but my numbers show nearly 400 deaths in 2021 in LA and a population of just under 4M, so that would be 10/100,000.

Either way, when you look at the gun crimes, they are largely an inner city issue and in democratic controlled cities, some with very strict gun laws as well.

 

[scattergun]

Even if you accept that oversimplification at face value, how does it account for a 6X difference?

 

[Texasbuckeye]

Even if you accept that oversimplification at face value, how does it account for a 6X difference?

6X difference in what? Please be more precise what you are referring to, hard to answer a question if I don't know the premise.

 

[KHNC]

Hahahah!!!!! Put me on ignore, do it, hide yourself from the true horrors of the internet. Lol. You can’t make this stuff up, I love it.

Even Rokslide can attract the weirdo types. lol

 

[Texasbuckeye]

Gun deaths per capita in the US 2022: 12.21 (homocide 4.46 and suicide 7.32)
Canada gun deaths per capita 2022: 2.05 (homocide 0.61 and suicide 1.5)

Violent crime rates are harder to compare as I am not sure if the data provided is real or if some wasn't reported. But here is the violent crime data from same site:

US 2018: serious assault 246.8; sexual violence 0; kidnapping 0; robbery 84.2
Canada 2018: serious assault 150.8; sexual violence 95; kidnapping 10.2; robbery 61.9

Neither country is in the top 10 (OK, I will concede by saying here "The US") for any significant crime statistic.

However, if appears if you want a lower risk of dying by homicide, you move to Canada but apparently you will sacrifice a much higher risk of sexual assault and kidnapping in the process.

Bottom line is there are cultures in the US that just are not present in Canada, and vice versa. It is impossible to compare crime statistics from a country to another as different situations are present in each country. I have no answer to the question why gun deaths are higher in the US vs Canada, but I can say by far and large, people in the US prefer the US and I believe people in Canada prefer Canada. The benefit to being close neighbors is we can visit, and if you really don't like where you live, you can try to move.

 

[Billinsd]

Either way, when you look at the gun crimes, they are largely an inner city issue and in democratic controlled cities, some with very strict gun laws as well.

Restricting gun ownership of law abiding citizen will do little to nothing to stop this.

 

[Billinsd]

Even Rokslide can attract the weirdo types. lol

Weirdo is in the eye of the beholder, lol.

 

[scattergun]

6X difference in what? Please be more precise what you are referring to, hard to answer a question if I don't know the premise.

Regrets; that was in reference to the six-times higher rate of gun deaths in the US vs. Canada mentioned earlier.

 

[Billinsd]

However, if appears if you want a lower risk of dying by homicide, you move to Canada but apparently you will sacrifice a much higher risk of sexual assault and kidnapping in the process.

Don't forget very inferior, but FREE healthcare. The US urban cities more resemble Central American cities regarding gun violence, than Canada and their gun laws are some of the strictest in the world.

 

[KHNC]

Weirdo is in the eye of the beholder, lol.

True, but i definitely was thinking of a lot worse names, but didnt want to get banned. LOL. This guy really seems to be a member that got banned recently under a different name.

 

[scattergun]

Don't forget very inferior, but FREE healthcare. The US urban cities more resemble Central American cities regarding gun violence, than Canada and their gun laws are some of the strictest in the world.

It it really inferior? Everyone’s covered, and Canada’s health-care outcomes tend to be better overall at a much lower cost.

I mean, you can always cherry-pick a few things that the US system comes out ahead in for those who are lucky enough to be covered, but Canada leads in some big ones including life expectancy, self-reported health status, premature mortality, mortality due to circulatory diseases, mortality due to respiratory diseases, mortality due to mental disorders, mortality due to medical malpractice, and infant mortality.

The firearm laws aren’t even close to being the strictest, either. There are plenty of guns in Canada.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Weirdo is in the eye of the beholder, lol.

Weirdos are weird in anyones eye. I'm with a group of fifteen guys and I see a weirdo and I say, that guy over there is weird. All fifteen guys agree.

 

[*zap*]

I wonder why these leaders want to disarm the people?

 

[scattergun]

I would assume that one reason would be to avoid having the anywhere near the gun violence levels of the US, and it seems to be working. Plus people can still get guns, so it’s not exactly “disarming the people”.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

I wonder why these leaders want to disarm the people?

Same reason they push the Rona narrative, control.

 

[*zap*]

When your government decides what guns you can/cannot own you live under tyranny.

 

[Gutshot007]

Can someone explain to me how disarming a law abiding citizen solves a crime problem ?

 

[Texasbuckeye]

I would assume that one reason would be to avoid having the anywhere near the gun violence levels of the US, and it seems to be working. Plus people can still get guns, so it’s not exactly “disarming the people”.

Listen man, I get it, you like Canada, and I am not trying to be rude here, but your own PM said the citizens of Canada have no right to self defense. I mean, what kind of nonsense is that?

The US was borne on backbone of rugged individualism and freedom, and this inspired the rest of the world to either emulate or hate, take your pick, but there were few things that have so polarized the world, pretty much the birth of Jesus Christ, and the assertion that individuals are free. Your parent, the brits, fought two wars over it, and they lost. Your other parents, the french, left you a divided country who doesn't even have a common language. Talk about different cultures. We have the right to bear arms, as a fundamental right for our citizens who don't throw it away (by committing a felony). So please excuse our pretentiousness when we say, we don't care about your gun violence stats, we prefer to live in freedom and be able to protect ourselves and our families against any enemy. It is a different mindset, and we will never get around that.

Having said that, there is a concerted effort by the likes of the globalists who want power and money, to try to control the US citizens to be more subordinate like other countries are. They are trying hard, and have a whole generation of self loathing lazy govt teet suckers who are willing to give up their freedoms for the right to continue to suck the teet that feeds them. Its disgusting to the rest of us US citizens and it will eventually topple our great nation. We will scrap and fight, and try everything in our power to keep that at bay, and until then, we have wave after wave of people scrambling, crawling across vast patches of dangerous dirt trying to get to our great country, something that is rarely seen except in times of great turmoil in other parts of the world, but it happens to the US EVERY SINGLE DAY. When mass migrations of people are trying to gain entrance into your country, for its greatness, then lets start talking. Until then, lets just keep the gun stats to what they are, statistics that are meant to drive division, and lets talk about why the US is the still the greatest country in the world.

Sarcasm meant but seriousness meant as well. you figure out what part is what....