Would you buy this scope?

[Frozenlead]

That makes me think of another need - a spotting scope with a MIL reticle to replace the Leupold Mark 4, ideally at a lower price?

Yes! Next product please.

They make a 20-60 spotter with their OSR MRAD reticle currently.

 

[khuber84]

Why do hunters need mil based reticles in their spotters? I've hade a Bushnell lmss for a long time with a mil reticle, used it in lots of matches, but never hunting. Are you milling elk horns with lrf yardage calcs to determine trophy size? We've all gone to smaller cartridges that allow to self spot shots, so milling corrections on follow ups isn't necessary. Are you guys all shooting prs now trying to mill target size? Maybe I'm missing something entirely........

 

[rbutcher1234]

Why do hunters need mil based reticles in their spotters? I've hade a Bushnell lmss for a long time with a mil reticle, used it in lots of matches, but never hunting. Are you milling elk horns with lrf yardage calcs to determine trophy size? We've all gone to smaller cartridges that allow to self spot shots, so milling corrections on follow ups isn't necessary. Are you guys all shooting prs now trying to mill target size? Maybe I'm missing something entirely........

It’s a lot simpler to spot shots and give subsequent observational data to a shooter when you each have the same measuring unit in your visual field of view. That doesn’t change based on what type of shooting activity you’re doing, that’s just a fact of shooting.

I know you say you’re all self spotting shots, but my own experience with distance and high wind is that more sets of eyes spotting shots is always better. At 200 yards, does this matter? Not really. Past 500…. Yeah.

 

[Frozenlead]

It’s a lot simpler to spot shots and give subsequent observational data to a shooter when you each have the same measuring unit in your visual field of view. That doesn’t change based on what type of shooting activity you’re doing, that’s just a fact of shooting.

I know you say you’re all self spotting shots, but my own experience with distance and high wind is that more sets of eyes spotting shots is always better. At 200 yards, does this matter? Not really. Past 500…. Yeah.

This and it is also a handy tool to judge trophy or legal size

 

[Dualsight]

It has already been stated the illumination is a push button.
Question(s):

• Will it be a "loop" (1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5...)? or
• Subsequent presses (1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1)? or
• Toggle (one side of toggle (+) increase / other side of toggle (-) decrease)?
• Or something different than above?

 

[nm.otter]

They make a 20-60 spotter with their OSR MRAD reticle currently.

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Jan 25, 2026

From what I understand there are two branches to their gear lines. The higher tier stuff is Japanese manufactured and finished in Australia, the lower tier stuff is Chinese.

This is also interesting. Fix the reticle and it could be a winner.

Also, please give us an option with a fixed wide-angle eyepiece -- and don't make me buy the zoom version and then pay extra to replace the eyepiece.

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[khuber84]

It’s a lot simpler to spot shots and give subsequent observational data to a shooter when you each have the same measuring unit in your visual field of view. That doesn’t change based on what type of shooting activity you’re doing, that’s just a fact of shooting.

I know you say you’re all self spotting shots, but my own experience with distance and high wind is that more sets of eyes spotting shots is always better. At 200 yards, does this matter? Not really. Past 500…. Yeah.

There are several mil reticle spotters on the market, which is a pretty small one demand wise. Optics are a tough game. Saturated already with big players, best of luck if they try to bring one out.

 

[Formidilosus]

It has already been stated the illumination is a push button.
Question(s):

• Will it be a "loop" (1-2-3-4-5-1-2-3-4-5...)? or
• Subsequent presses (1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1)? or
• Toggle (one side of toggle (+) increase / other side of toggle (-) decrease)?
• Or something different than above?

Subsequent presses (1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1)

 

[Dualsight]

Subsequent presses (1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1)

Thank you.

 

[huntsman22]

pushbuttons suck. Give me a rheostat, if I had a choice..... But I'd gladly suffer a button on this scope.....grin

 

[Formidilosus]

pushbuttons suck. Give me a rheostat, if I had a choice..... But I'd gladly suffer a button on this scope.....grin

Rheostat was heavier and made it more bulky. And potentially, less able to take side impacts.

 

[huntsman22]

I realize that. I just prefer them, if given a choice of a couple ounces

 

[nm.otter]

It's really difficult to make a small, mechanically durable variable resistor. Making it resistant to shaft impacts is particularly challenging.

 

[solarshooter]

Could someone give a quick 153 page summary for those just tuning in. Sounds like a shoot2hunt scope is in the works?

What’s the size, price, availability date, etc?

Looking to make a tikka 6.5 PRC build with a rokstok. Was going to go with a maven, but may wait now that I see this.

 

[Ice-kub]

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Who's who?

 

[solarshooter]

Who's who?

Donny is anyone who doesn't know about this scope yet, the Dude is anyone ready to put down 100$ for the preorder after 1 weekend of testing, and Walter is Form (of course).

 

[Ryan Avery]

Better/worse/equal to the Schott glass in the Tract UHD glass?

Schott glass is as good as its coatings, similar to quality Japanese glass.

 

[khuber84]

Schott glass is as good as its coatings, similar to quality Japanese glass.

This! Razor gen3 glass is LOW, and I think it's better than the zeiss "schott" in the S3 line. It's all about the coatings.

 

[THLR]

2) It's not meant to be a tacticool supersniper reticle

3) The original has features for ranging and wind holds that are more on the advanced side

4) The reticle is, apparently, exceptionally good in getting you on target in very low-light conditions

No matter what my design intentions was, it is how it is utilized by the end-user that matters. I'll just add some trivia.

Good summary by @RockAndSage, the only error was 2).
It was explicitly a tacticool supersniper reticle.

It's built on the principle of "fundamental surprise" and aligning design with actual training.

For some cool guys, it is incredibly difficult to understand that things that has never happened before happens all the time. Hence a design that primes the correct decision. It is daft to believe that you will be able to go via a complex abstract when you are already knocked on your ass.

Before you say "not me", there is an overwhelming amount of data and deaths in aviation that says so. Are the average shooter/sniper really selected better than a fighter pilot? "OK, we got your test results aaaaand we think this rifle//airplane is a good fit for your abilities..." (not how it works, but...)

Central to this design was the square. Regardless of observation angle, either the target fits or it does not. Shoot, Aim Short or Long. Simple decisions to raze the first 600m. No need to remember a trajectory, find a number with a name and then interpret that value into a reticle or turret.

4)The increasing line thickness was similarily designed to align with magnification/FOV and the many variables of fleeting runners. Outside a stupid range, you're never going to assess the variables and you're reduced to "legal target?" and "staple through" from a reasonable bracket based on time of flight / target speed.

3) Other ranging features was not really something I believe in, but if the cadre insists on being inefficient, at least be less inefficient and place them "here" to give the least disturbance and fastest transition for the shooter.

Since I took the money for this project out of my own pocket, I also made some adjustments for my own hunting.

The S2H scope is a good scrub and good fit for hunting.

Edit:
... someone asked about lack of vertical above horisontal x dimesion. My opinion is that clear observation and ability to "see" peak of trajectory in the reticle has greater value. Almost every manufacturer fails here as they tend to put in at least 2 mrad which is too much as it doesn't simplify the killing.

 

[Castle Rock]

... someone asked about lack of vertical above horisontal x dimesion. My opinion is that clear observation and ability to "see" peak of trajectory in the reticle has greater value. Almost every manufacturer fails here as they tend to put in at least 2 mrad which is too much as it doesn't simplify the killing.

Spot on