Wont directly disagree with this statement however I did lose a bull @ 19 yards one year.... Talk about a kick to the ego....Top pin, I can't even begin to tell you how many elk I've passed at longer ranges. I'm not even getting excited until they are under 30 yds. I've said it before, I'll say it again, short range elk, are short range recoveries. Long range elk are long rang recoveries in my experience being around "people who can shoot"
When they are 20 and in, they are dead, no iffs ands or buts.
Depends if the elk is alert and looking. If feeding or bedded and unaware.. 60 max. Follow up on a wounded elk could be why I practice out to 100 everyday.
I killed my bull last season at 75 yards. Totally unaware, perfect broadside. I would have liked to have been closer, but that was as close as I was getting in that situation.
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Hoyt Ventum 33, 70#, 29.5" DL, shooting a 530ish grain arrow with a 2-blade Kudu with bleeders. Arrow hit a little high, middle of the vitals, complete pass through, stuck in ground about 15 yards past the elk. Bull went about 75 yards and piled up.What’s your set up?
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The worst hit I've had was from 17 yards. Ya, it was in the rain and I couldn't really make out any details.......but I just didn't want to gut shoot him in that rain and moved about 1-2" too far forward and hit him squarely on the knuckle on a slightly quartering to me shot. Had that bull been at 40 or beyond, I am 100% confident that I would have double lunged him. Three years later I shot the bull in my avatar from a similar quartering to me angle, but from 30. It hit about an inch above the knuckle and an inch left and blew through the lower part of the shoulder blade. That bull went 37 yards and was done. But I'd much rather have them at 40-50 for a better sight picture IMO. If I can see the top of his back, his belly, and his front leg, then I know exactly where my pin is on his body. Looking through my sight guard and seeing all tan covering the entire guard is not the best sight picture for me.When they are 20 and in, they are dead, no iffs ands or buts.
Yeah those knuckle shots suck! I shot a bull at 40 yards in the Gila in 2017 and swore i just made a great shot. Perfectly broadside. I heard him crash and everything! I was fist pumping and thinking about all the photos i was going to send my buddies of my first 350+ bull!The worst hit I've had was from 17 yards. Ya, it was in the rain and I couldn't really make out any details.......but I just didn't want to gut shoot him in that rain and moved about 1-2" too far forward and hit him squarely on the knuckle on a slightly quartering to me shot. Had that bull been at 40 or beyond, I am 100% confident that I would have double lunged him. Three years later I shot the bull in my avatar from a similar quartering to me angle, but from 30. It hit about an inch above the knuckle and an inch left and blew through the lower part of the shoulder blade. That bull went 37 yards and was done. But I'd much rather have them at 40-50 for a better sight picture IMO. If I can see the top of his back, his belly, and his front leg, then I know exactly where my pin is on his body. Looking through my sight guard and seeing all tan covering the entire guard is not the best sight picture for me.
The worst hit I've had was from 17 yards. Ya, it was in the rain and I couldn't really make out any details.......but I just didn't want to gut shoot him in that rain and moved about 1-2" too far forward and hit him squarely on the knuckle on a slightly quartering to me shot. Had that bull been at 40 or beyond, I am 100% confident that I would have double lunged him. Three years later I shot the bull in my avatar from a similar quartering to me angle, but from 30. It hit about an inch above the knuckle and an inch left and blew through the lower part of the shoulder blade. That bull went 37 yards and was done. But I'd much rather have them at 40-50 for a better sight picture IMO. If I can see the top of his back, his belly, and his front leg, then I know exactly where my pin is on his body. Looking through my sight guard and seeing all tan covering the entire guard is not the best sight picture for me.
There are always variables with every shot, but a BH through the vitals should always equate to "a BH through the vitals" regardless what the distance was. I shot a bull from 59 yards quartering away and the arrow lodged in the offside shoulder, so only one hole.......and he left this about 40 yards into his run. That was the first of 4 or 5 of those blood pools before he toppled over.There are always ifs ands and buts with archery, but for me, it seems the closer they are, they fall over way quicker. Maybe shot placement, not sure, but I've been on a lot of elk trails and I'm not sure why, but even good shots at 30-40 yds, it seems like we're trailing those elk for 100-150 yds. Did it twice last year. Mine shot @ 20 "didn't go 20"