What's wrong with more grizzlies in Idaho?

[flyfisher117]

Since this is a hunting forum, all of us wish Alaska was right outside our door and imaginethat would be awesome in every way. And we know that includes Grizzlies.
But that’s a fantasy. Alaska is based on extracting not growing things. So it’s easy to do Alaskan things with bears around. I’m not going to say where I’ve spent most of my time outdoors but there were no predators then but there ARE now. And it’s breaking a way of life for many people. The math for profiting from a small herd of goats or sheep is way better when you don’t need a whole pack of Pyrenees dogs or electric fences or going to jail for acting as the last line of defense for your animals. Just trust me, the places that are still natural and wild but free from predators, they’re literally heaven on earth. Just think how great it would be to have your own little herd of pack animals living just outside Yellowstone and never having to worry about predators.

so dramatic. I now live where I don't have big predators out my back door. Quality of life is not improved. Have yet to find this heaven on earth you preach about.

Don't worry. Someday you'll be able to move to Idaho and open your goat Yoga studio.

 

[IDVortex]

My new year resolution is to capture a griz on a game cam and send it to IDFG to have them confirm it to be a Blackie so I can help with the herd management.

 

[Pony Soldier]

I think the biggest issue not discussed in much of this is availability of food. I have watched USFWS move grizz into areas that lack any sustainable food source other than ranchers beef or elk.

My place is frozen for months at a time very similar to parts of Alaska yet we don't have fish, deer or any meaty food source to sustain grizz. Very shortly after arrival the conflicts start with ranchers over chicken coups, calving grounds and even boneyards. I assume our densest population of food might be gophers and they come up in late may and are gone by august.

We have very few black bears and correspondingly have no berries like the western part of Montana. I think prior to developing an apex predator population in an area, there should be an inventory of sustainable food sources to support them and current competition. Without that the government is targetting the local inhabitants for conflict.

 

[High Climber]

My new year resolution is to capture a griz on a game cam and send it to IDFG to have them confirm it to be a Blackie so I can help with the herd management.

I’m jumping on this bandwagon