1955 Cutter Labratories took Jon Salk polio formula and rushed it into production got it wrong and killed 10 kids and permanently paralyzing another 164...all 70k kids vaccinated had bad side effects. Sure the polio vaccine is safe now....but it wasn't at 1st. This event led to the current regulatory enviroment for vaccine approval...the one that has been "fast tracked" for covid vaccine.
1974 swine flu outbreak President Ford rushed a vaccine to the market, low quality control, The vaccine tested poorly on children who, depending on the form of vaccine tested, either developed adverse reactions with high fevers and sore arms or did not mount an immune response at all. Reports emerged that the vaccine appeared to cause Guillain-Barré syndrome in a very small number of cases.
There is a reason vaccine trials take 10 yrs to be approved....not saying an effective Covid vaccine can't be made but given the history the chances they will get right the 1st time are slim to none. Even is the formula is spot on you still have QC issues anytime you ramp up production of anything.
Cutter Labs got it wrong, not because it was rushed, but because they were incompetent. The Salk polio formula was used by other labs to make functional and safe vaccines. The science was not the problem. A change in vaccine development would not have prevented it, rather government being more intrusive with private corporations would have. Finally, 200K kids were vaccinated with it, about 40K developed polio from it. Your statement about "all" is demonstrably false. So, lets apply these numbers (which are horrific) to COVID 19. 200K people get COVID 19, that is 2,000-4,000 deaths (vs 10 deaths and 164 people with varying degrees of paralysis). Now, even if we say only 1/4 of people will ever contract COVID 19, this is still 500-1000 deaths vs 10 deaths at 164 disabilities. We are not even talking about the life altering effects COVID 19 has for some patients yet, but the numbers are still staggeringly in favor of a vaccine.
The big headliner number from the Cutter Labs debacle is the 40,000 that contracted polio from the improperly weakened virus in the vaccine. There is no conceivable way an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna) could cause this. There is very little conceivable way even the most egregious errors could case it with a dead viral component vaccine (Astrazeneca). However, even if it could, when this is compared to the idea that everyone should be allowed to contract COVID naturally, it still favors the vaccine. Further, as the death rate for polio was 5-15 percent, the fact that only 10 people died out of those 40K that contracted polio from the vaccine says that even this horrible abortion of justice and science committed by Cutter Labs was still safer than contracting polio.
For 45 million people vaccinated for the 1974 swine flue, 450 (yes, as in four hundred and fifty) developed Guillain-Barre syndrome. So, if we are to use this is an example of the horrors of vaccines and compare it to COVID 19, COVID would have killed 450,000 to 900,000 and resulted in 2.25 million ICU stays. Even if we argue that COVID would only spread to 1/4 of the 45 million that is still 112,500 to 225,000 dead. So, even ignoring the fact that most people end up recovering from Guillain-Barre (and outside of religious contexts I have never heard of someone recovering from death) the numbers are still staggeringly in favor of a vaccine.
There is a reason emergency use authorizations are being considered for COVID vaccines.
I work in a laboratory in a hospital. I do a good bit of specimen collection and interacting with the patients, as well as running the tests and communicating with public health about results. I am by no means an expert on the situation, but I am a professional with 6 years of schooling and this is what I have been seeing in our fairly low populated area.
You follow up on all those patients? Or do you see them get sent home and not see when they get crash intubated in the ED a week later? Or, for the milder cases, do you follow up to see if they have any long term effects, sift through all their health records? There is a reason we normally reject antidotal evidence in medicine and science.
The only value of my personal experience is that I can definitively say this virus is not a hoax and that it does nasty things to people some times. Perhaps, as your experience has yet to show this you believe the official data is a lie.
Did you now that 72 percent of people with polio have no detectable symptoms? Think about how easily personal experience combined with a small sample size could lead to the conclusion that polio is relatively harmless.
You can't compare speed limits to this if Federal Highway dollars weren't tied to speed limits half the states out west still wouldn't have one. Society didn't decided on speed limits and seat belts...most of the states were extorted into passing those laws...really similar to what I seeing now in the media...can't wait to have show my covid vaccine app on my phone before they let me into the store....I fear for Liberty and Freedom in the coming months...
Seat belts, that says enough.
In a democracy (even our constitutional republic) the government represents the people. Therefore every law is decided by society (the people). If you think speed limits and seatbelt laws should be abolished, get a large enough movement going and they will be. Note, I don't think there are enough people who agree with you for that to work, but your argument is that those laws don't have the sanction of the governed. So, yes, society did decided on speed limits and seat belts.
