Unknown Munitions Tikka Clone action coming soon?

[BRTreedogs]

The only use for an interchangeable bolt face isn’t always to have a multi barrel setup and switch back and forth.

What if someone wants one rifle, wears the barrel out, then wants to switch cartridges.

Yeah it can be done with tikka bolts.
But an improved action may be a better start.

If tikka would just chamber 6 cm I’d be happy.

But if forced to build I’d build off an improved action, before buying a complete rifle and scraping most of it.

 

[Macintosh]

Are they that low on work?

I have no idea. What I do know is that for a business to perform x task at a certain volume they sometimes need a specific machine and someone to operate it. That machine is VERY expensive. Operators arent cheap if you want them to stick around. So in order to make the investment work, you have to keep that machine in use at all times, and you have to provide reliable work for the operator—you basically need a full business plan for that one machine, because you cant just put the machine in a corner and break it out every couple weeks when you need to perform this one task. Additionally, if you lay off a skilled machinist during a slow time of year (say, for example, when you cant get actions to do builds with because they are only available to order at one time of year and you ran out or couldnt afford to buy a full year of inventory all at once), well that machinist is likely to find employment somewhere more consistent because they have kids that need feeding year-round, and probably wont be available when you need them again. Maybe you could farm it out, but then thats likely subject to long lead times and availability as well. BUT, if you have 3 or 4 projects that all use that same machine and operator that allow you to better manage your inventory through the year, as well as better manage your cash flow, then it could make a lot of sense from a lot of perspectives to make that investment and do those extra projects, because it adds a layer of control (aka security and reliability) to your whole business.

The calculus looks like: “we cant get enough of this component on time, the supplier isnt able or willing to make a change, and its preventing us from growing. We can produce the component, but only if we can buy $$$ tooling, etc, which financially requires making more than just the one component. But we can also do these three other things with it, and together they make the investment worthwhile. Therefore by adding those FOUR projects, we can add to our offering in a way that is financially responsible, and also eliminates a bottleneck to the growth of our existing business.”

Thats all. Again, I have no inside knowledge and I have no idea if this is in play at all, it’s simply something that I have seen a number of times in small businesses, and only meant to add it to the conversation because people are focusing so much on their personal decision of buying a Tikka versus a different action. I’m only suggesting that there’s potentially more to it than only that.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Simple example, Tikka bolts at a known vendor are $575 plus tax and shipping

The price point from known vendor is silly and we all know it. You can get a blued complete rifle for $630 + transfer fees/shipping today and get the same stainless bolt. It doesn't even take tools to harvest the bolt and you still have components with way over $55 in value. Some folks don't know or don't want to deal with selling off the rest of the stuff and may choose to pay price gouging for convivence, but don't pretend that is the true street price.

$575 price point you're just below the cost to have a complete rifle and/or action if you want to rebarrel it. As was already mentioned I'd rather have actions with barrels on them and swap a scope and/or bolt around than constantly be swapping barrels.

 

[WeiserBucks]

don't pretend that is the true street price.

I'm pretending anything, it was a quick example of pricing.

 

[wind gypsy]

The price point from known vendor is silly and we all know it. You can get a blued complete rifle for $630 + transfer fees/shipping today and get the same stainless bolt. It doesn't even take tools to harvest the bolt and you still have components with way over $55 in value. Some folks don't know or don't want to deal with selling off the rest of the stuff and may choose to pay price gouging for convivence, but don't pretend that is the true street price.

$575 price point you're just below the cost to have a complete rifle and/or action if you want to rebarrel it. As was already mentioned I'd rather have actions with barrels on them and swap a scope and/or bolt around than constantly be swapping barrels.

You got me thinking of shit I dont need now.. Could nearly pay for a receiver, trigger, stock, bottom metal/mag by selling a bolt/takeoff barrel, then have a 300BO tube spun up and use existing 223 bolt to be a backyard gun..

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I'm pretending anything, it was a quick example of pricing.

It wasn't in good faith to the point you were making, its an exaggerated price a company offers that is gouging albeit immediately available with low effort. That is all.

You got me thinking of shit I dont need now.. Could nearly pay for a receiver, trigger, stock, bottom metal/mag by selling a bolt/takeoff barrel, then have a 300BO tube spun up and use existing 223 bolt to be a backyard gun..

Haha, sorry. Frankly a feller just needs as many bolts as he has ability to shoot at once. Even at the shooting range there isn't really an issue pulling the bolt on a gun that is cooling off and putting it into another gun to shoot.

 

[Okie_Poke]

You got me thinking of shit I dont need now.. Could nearly pay for a receiver, trigger, stock, bottom metal/mag by selling a bolt/takeoff barrel, then have a 300BO tube spun up and use existing 223 bolt to be a backyard gun..

It's ideas like this that gets me to buy shit I don't need "trying to save money."

 

[8404]

Economy isn’t everything to all people. I’ve bought gear that I wanted just because it works well and it’s cool.

One great example would be my Short Acton Customs Nexus reloading press. It’s doubtful it makes better ammunition than the Rock Chucker it replaced, but there’s something very satisfying about using it.

The fact that they, and the Area 419 press sell out of stock from time to time are proof that I’m clearly not the only one who thinks this way.

If everyone put functionality first and put economy and practicality at the top of the list, we would all be driving F150s and Corollas. But we’re not. And I like that.

If UM builds a Tikka clone that works well, they will sell a pile of them.

Tribalism exists. And it sells stuff.

 

[The Fish Box]

Wait is this seven pages of speculation???

 

[NSI]

Wait is this seven pages of speculation???

Welcome to RS.

-J

 

[BRTreedogs]

Wait is this seven pages of speculation???

It’s also hopes and dreams.

 

[8404]

Wait is this seven pages of speculation???

I think when Rokslide royalty spends a good chunk of time defending the project it slowly slides out of the realm of “speculation” and is nudged more towards “probably happening.”