Toyota Tacoma Advantages

[CorbLand]

It's kind of entertaining.
It's like arguing with Liberals why facts matter more than feelings then pointing them to crime rates and spending deficits and they come back with another comment.
Passes the time...

I mean, in the nicest way possible, your the one that looks like your arguing based on feelings.

You really haven’t provided any facts to back up your claims other than the one vehicle you had problems with.

 

[Ucsdryder]

I mean, in the nicest way possible, your the one that looks like your arguing based on feelings.

You really haven’t provided any facts to back up your claims other than the one vehicle you had problems with.

You’re wasting your time. You say the sky is blue, he says no it isn’t. You say the earth is round and he says no it isn’t. What’s scary is I’m pretty confident he actually thinks everyone else is the dumb one.

 

[Coldtrail]

Not to be picky, but I was still expecting the expert to actually break down the specs of the Tacoma as it compares to a HiLux.

Could it be that he does not really know the difference?

He "googled" to find the payload.......hes got kind of a thing with rear springs, but left out the decreased towing capacity since that didnt help his case.

 

[Thinkingman]

You’re wasting your time. You say the sky is blue, he says no it isn’t. You say the earth is round and he says no it isn’t. What’s scary is I’m pretty confident he actually thinks everyone else is the dumb one.

I, and I alone, am responsible for the frame rot recall and the leaf spring recall issued covering hundreds of thousands of vehicles sold in North America by Toyota.
That makes me kind of a deity.
One squeaky wheel on Rokslide that affected one of the largest auto manufacturers in the world and one of the most popular vehicles on the road.
Impressed now?

 

[Thinkingman]

I mean, in the nicest way possible, your the one that looks like your arguing based on feelings.

You really haven’t provided any facts to back up your claims other than the one vehicle you had problems with.

Just recalls for major components like frames breaking and springs breaking.
Not exactly like 'my bluetooth sometimes takes 20 seconds to connect'.

How exactly to these recalls for major components escape the attention of the consumers?

And if I were a car dealer bragging about how vast my knowledge is, would I want to be named in a lawsuit for peddling a vehicle that had one of these failures?

 

[CorbLand]

Just recalls for major components like frames breaking and springs breaking.
Not exactly like 'my bluetooth sometimes takes 20 seconds to connect'.

How exactly to these recalls for major components escape the attention of the consumers?

And if I were a car dealer bragging about how vast my knowledge is, would I want to be named in a lawsuit for peddling a vehicle that had one of these failures?

I don’t think anyone is denying that Toyota has their fair share of problems. Every manufacturer has their issues. To me, it’s more important that they stand up and fix said issues. Toyota has a history of doing that.

Now they didn’t do it for you so I can see why you don’t like them. You couldn’t pay me enough to drive a Dodge but they still build some good vehicles.

Last time I checked, you are they only one that has acted like or even offered to tell us all about how you know so much more than everyone else.

When was the last time a dealership was brought into a lawsuit because of the failure of a manufacturer?

How do the recalls escape consumers? Well, I think that a large majority of people understand that with a vehicle you are buy a package of parts that all work together. One of those parts can and will break/fail. When you are doing this you look for something that has a reputation of little failures, not no, little.

Nobody has built the perfect, all purpose, covers all situation vehicle.

 

[mtwarden]

My 10+ year 2012 Tacoma has had NO issues. I do my own scheduled maintenance- easy to work on.

I got mine just as they fixed the rear leaf issue (mine came with the extra leaf).

Recently had a recall on a smog component, truck was at the dealer for an hour- first time the dealer has touched my truck

 

[Walkstoomuch]

Isn't it about time to release the meme squad to really put a bow on this thread?

My totally stock '02 has 218k. One clutch, O2 sensors, brakes, tires, shocks (warrantied as it was early on) and a bad sensor for the parking brake that leaves the light on which has electrical tape covering it. She's covered in manzanita pinstripes, plenty of body dings and is full of dog hair but I'm neurotic about the maintenance and she's never let me down. I've been on a lot of dumb "roads" with it and agree that a clown car (sxs) might be more suited at times but sure is nice turning on the heat/ac and having a bed to fill up. There may be more comfortable pickups but they sure do take a beating. I realize none of this probably matters to the OP but I felt the need to defend my princess

 

[Ucsdryder]

Isn't it about time to release the meme squad to really put a bow on this thread?

My totally stock '02 has 218k. One clutch, O2 sensors, brakes, tires, shocks (warrantied as it was early on) and a bad sensor for the parking brake that leaves the light on which has electrical tape covering it. She's covered in manzanita pinstripes, plenty of body dings and is full of dog hair but I'm neurotic about the maintenance and she's never let me down. I've been on a lot of dumb "roads" with it and agree that a clown car (sxs) might be more suited at times but sure is nice turning on the heat/ac and having a bed to fill up. There may be more comfortable pickups but they sure do take a beating. I realize none of this probably matters to the OP but I felt the need to defend my princess

But but but…tell us about the leaf springs.

 

[Coldtrail]

I, and I alone, am responsible for the frame rot recall and the leaf spring recall issued covering hundreds of thousands of vehicles sold in North America by Toyota.
That makes me kind of a deity.
One squeaky wheel on Rokslide that affected one of the largest auto manufacturers in the world and one of the most popular vehicles on the road.
Impressed now?

No offense...but I would have used that kind of leverage to get new rear leaf packs instead initiating the nationwide recall

 

[WyoEng]

As an owner of both, here are my thoughts:
Honda Pioneer 1000-5:
*Hot in the cab.
*Dusty. No matter how much you try to seal the cab, dust finds its way in.
*Noisy.
*Needs a trailer to get anywhere.
*Cold in the cab.
*Insurance can be expensive
*They all are prone to breakdowns and mechanical failures (unless you can mechanic yourself, it's expensive).
*Comparable fuel mileage to my Tacoma.
*They are incredibly fun on trails.
*They are handy on the acreage if you have it.

Tacoma:
*Air and Heat.
*Radio
*Doesn't need to be trailered.
*Almost as offroad capable as a SXS. Just not as narrow.
*Able to drive everyday
*Cabs are quiet.
*No dust in the cab.

I like the Pioneer, I have really thought about selling it due to lack of use. Here is a depressing way to look at it:
If you pay 22k for one and keep it for 10 years and put 10k miles on it.
That breaks down to $2200 a year or $2.20 a mile. Believe me, you have to drive the snot out of it to ever hit 10k miles.

See I just talked myself out of having one!

Did you ever sell your Pioneer? Just curious. I have one and am considering selling it and buying a Tacoma. 2018 year with 900 miles on it b/c I just don't use it maybe 1-2x/year. Drives me nuts sitting there when I could take the money and put toward a Tacoma and drive it daily. I'll miss the plow when we get a big blizzard though, but we are in a subdivision with a small driveway so I can manhandle it with a snowblower.

 

[Customweld]

Did you ever sell your Pioneer? Just curious. I have one and am considering selling it and buying a Tacoma. 2018 year with 900 miles on it b/c I just don't use it maybe 1-2x/year. Drives me nuts sitting there when I could take the money and put toward a Tacoma and drive it daily. I'll miss the plow when we get a big blizzard though, but we are in a subdivision with a small driveway so I can manhandle it with a snowblower.

I ended up keeping it. I figured I probably wouldn't ever be able to get into another one if I regretted my decision. I actually have put it to use wolf hunting the last couple of winters.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

I just picked up a 2015 Tacoma Access cab with 40k miles on it. I have a nice 2020 1794 Tundra that I hated beating up in the mountain. The tacoma is going to be perfect for me. I spent a week in a SxS a month ago elk hunting and hated it. It was cold, super uncomfortable, I didnt fit well, my knees were jammed up against the dash the entire time. There was probably only one trail we took that I could have taken a tacoma but wouldnt have because the trees had grown over so bad it would have put some really deep scratches on it.

 

[dsotm]

I’ve got a Tundra for my DD but still kick myself for not buying a beater 3rd gen 4Runner before the china flu

 

[ewade07]

I have a 1999 Rav4, 5spd AWD with rear locking diff. That thing is pretty much a side by side.

 

[Coveyleader]

Second generations I think carry the reputation well. The thirds have been a let down. If you have a third gen and are poo pooing the Tacoma, that's not how they used to make them.

I keep hearing that, but my third gen has been a much better truck than my second gen, by a mile. The second gen bearing issues drove me nuts. It seemed like every 50k, was wheel bearing time. I replaced two, and when I sold it at 200k, it needed two more. Paint sucked on them as well. For a long time, I wished the 3rd Gen had the same gearing and motor, but I'm passed that now. In my opinion, the 3rd is better.


I see Toyota released a new 4th gen. Looks are so so. I have a 120k on my 3rd gen and it has been such a nice truck (it has taken a beating) that getting another one has crossed my mind. I can't see a better truck for running CO roads than a Tacoma.

 

[BLJ]

Just wanted to add this for the guys that live in the salt belt. Keep an eye on things.

That was before the needle scaler. She’s bad.

 

[BigNate]

The benefit of the Taco is that you own a Taco and will have a trouble free truck that you never have to sell.

The downside of the Taco is that you are now stuck being the owner of a Taco forever.

I used to agree with this. Key phrase is USED To!

I had a late 90's 4runner that went a lot of places in stock form that "jeepers " acted surprised to see me there. It had head gasket issues.
My son had a TRD off road version of the Tacoma and it did ok but the traction control can't be shut off in a way that's easy enough to make sense when you're stuck. The traction control will leave you stuck.

There are times when spinning tires, higher rpm, and lockers being engaged all have a place to get through or out of a jam. A guy at my work is having issues with his traction control putting him in some sort of limp mode with little to no power and its like having open difficulty with no power.

I'm needing a different rig myself and was considering a Tacoma but not now.

 

[Dos Perros]

I keep hearing that, but my third gen has been a much better truck than my second gen, by a mile. The second gen bearing issues drove me nuts. It seemed like every 50k, was wheel bearing time. I replaced two, and when I sold it at 200k, it needed two more. Paint sucked on them as well. For a long time, I wished the 3rd Gen had the same gearing and motor, but I'm passed that now. In my opinion, the 3rd is better.

I'm at 420k on my 06 and I think I've replaced 4 total wheel bearings. Not sure if any have been replaced more than once. That's a wear part and not something I mind replacing, but you're right 50k is too short of an interval. Maybe the OEM bearings are junk? I assume my shop used aftermarket to replace.

 

[CorbLand]

Just wanted to add this for the guys that live in the salt belt. Keep an eye on things. View attachment 802056View attachment 802057View attachment 802058View attachment 802059

That was before the needle scaler. She’s bad.

What gen is this on?