Thought Experiment: bear defense

[Fatcamp]

I would love to see it on a grizzly. I think it would be incredible. #2 (or even bigger) buckshot TSS seems like great bear medicine.

Tungsten buckshot for leopard follow up?

Given a former thread claiming tungsten shot passes through geese, ducks, etc. could we extrapolate that increased performance to tungsten buckshot? If no 9 tungsten is passing through birds, would tungsten buckshot end the debate about penetration/effectiveness on wounded leopards? It would not...

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Here's an interesting conversation.

 

[jolson]

I would have to go with the shotgun as well but with the tried and true cutter breaching rounds

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[rlynn27]

M60 on bipod, armor piercing rounds, belt of 100.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

Slingshot. Right through its eye.

 

[cmert]

If size and weight is not a consideration and the gun is already out and ready to roll I'm going M2A1 with a whole belt of APITs.

 

[jpmulk]

Something requiring a lanyard

 

[mtnbound]

AR-based rifle system, LPO or Red-dot, and a change of underwear.

 

[Rich M]

plain lead buckshot will flatten and some will penetrate. Why copper and nickel plated buckshot is made...

I've seen stuff talking about BB tungsten fully penetrating a deer's rib cage at 75 yards. Would have no issues carrying some 3-inch #1 Buck in grizzly territory.

Guy i know from AK says the locals carry 000 buck intermixed with slugs and a .44 mag. Sounds reasonable - shoot the legs out and then kill it.

 

[b0nes]

 

[LR5Ranger]

A charging grizz, what I would WANT is a 105mm howitzer. More realistically I would want my Beretta 1301 12 gauge, loaded with a combo of slugs and 15 pellet 00 buck. Holds 8 rounds and shoots as fast as I can pull the trigger.

On the trap line here in Idaho carrying a shotgun with all my other stuff is often impractical; I typically carry a super redhawk in .480 Ruger with 400gr hardcast.