The response Jake and Ryan asked for concerning "why not use vulgarity?"

[Schmo]

I’ll add my thoughts into this mess of a thread (not a mess because of the OP).

Just so I don’t get called out and told that I’m “emotionally sensitive”: I fully understand that the S2H podcast is Jake and Ryan’s podcast, and that they can conduct it how they please.

Personally, because of my values, I don’t appreciate the language. This means that I don’t listen to some of the podcasts. Some episodes have very minimal cursing, and others are loaded. I can tell within 30 seconds to a minute after the intro concludes if it’s one I’ll listen to or not. The recent one with Dioni for example. I could tell it was going to be loaded, and while the topic of the podcast was intriguing to me, I chose not to listen. So if they are cool with excluding an audience because of the language they choose to use, that is their choice. In a similar vein, I would like to wear a UM hat or shirt because the company does some good stuff, but I won’t because of the vulgarity and profanity associated with the brand.

I haven’t talked with Form, but most of the podcasts he’s in, his language is pretty clean. I’m sure it’s not this way at a S2H class, but he cleans it up for a podcast, and I appreciate that. He is able to share information without dropping F bombs.

I’d be really grateful if they dropped the profanity and vulgarity from the podcast, but if they choose not to, then I’ll just continue skipping some episodes.

 

[rabbithuntr]

I pretty much just listen to the form fridays because they are clean. The cussing got old pretty fast on the others though. I also have kids around a lot and I usually listen on a speaker and often work in or around other peoples homes, their podcast aren’t conducive for that.

 

[307]

Has anyone used good will hunting Harvard nerd memes yet?

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I’m pretty sure someone likes apples.

 

[JF_Idaho]

Odd, I feel like this when the stocky commercials come on. Especially when im driving home after a long day, barely awake and it comes on louder than Kamalas Hackale.

Yes. Compounded by the fact its super loud and the fact that the guy has a lisp and there's a million "S's".

"Thtocky'ths Thtockths"

 

[Dos XX]

If we can somehow manifest "Bearded Ass Clowns" into existence as the new name of the podcast I think all of humanity would be united in this agreement.

For clarification purposes, which of these hyphenated versions is what you were going for?

Bearded-ass clowns
Bearded ass-clowns

 

[307]

For clarification purposes, which of these hyphenated versions is what you were going for?

Bearded-ass clowns
Bearded ass-clowns

The ambiguity is critical to maintain the overall vibe so I will respectfully decline the request to clarify.

 

[doc holiday13]

For clarification purposes, which of these hyphenated versions is what you were going for?

Bearded-ass clowns
Bearded ass-clowns

Can it be both?

 

[roosiebull]

My kids are got season passes to the mountain on my cussing alone.

I just am happy to make it through a meeting without an f bomb.

I didn’t realize they cuss on the podcast, which likely means I’m a little desensitized

 

[Cannonball]

vs.

 

[grfox92]

Im having a really hard time understanding why a bunch of grown men are so offended by other grown men cursing.

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[Schmo]

Im having a really hard time understanding why a bunch of grown men are so offended by other grown men cursing.

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That would depend on what you mean by “offended”. Do I dislike it and choose to not listen? Yes, I do. Do I cause a stink about it? No, I don’t.

 

[nagibson1]

Im having a really hard time understanding why a bunch of grown men are so offended by other grown men cursing.

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I agree. But there seems to be about double (or much more) the mockery and umbrage taken by grown men about someone making a moral argument about something in a serious way that they don't even have to see or read.
I'll be the first guy to say that mature masculinity recognizes and rejects true impracticality. But some of this seems more like anti-intellectualism, and frankly, lunchroom bullying.
I don't consider either mature or masculine.

 

[JGRaider]

I played professional baseball and have heard it all so I'm not easily offended by anything, especially foul language. These habitual "cussors" though, haven’t grasped the fact that the internet is forever and their digital footprint is basically a neon sign saying “Don’t hire me.” They treat social media like a private conversation in a bar at 2 AM, forgetting that everyone from their grandmother to their potential boss can see it. They still get that little thrill of rebellion every time they drop an f-bomb, like teenagers who just learned these words exist. Watch how they snicker at their own profanity or look around for reactions after particularly colorful phrases. They never outgrew that phase where shocking adults felt like a personality trait.

 

[Dos XX]

The ambiguity is critical to maintain the overall vibe so I will respectfully decline the request to clarify.

Allows the reader to form their own interpretation. Brilliant.

 

[grfox92]

That would depend on what you mean by “offended”. Do I dislike it and choose to not listen? Yes, I do. Do I cause a stink about it? No, I don’t.

So would you listen if there wasn't profanity? Would you find value in the podcast if they didn't curse all the time?

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[Schmo]

So would you listen if there wasn't profanity? Would you find value in the podcast if they didn't curse all the time?

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I would definitely listen to any of the topics that interested me if there wasn’t profanity.

There is value in a lot of the episodes, but currently, with the language used, I choose to pass up that content, even though the content would be valuable to me.

 

[Yoder]

If you don't like it, turn it off.

 

[5811]

Im having a really hard time understanding why a bunch of grown men are so offended by other grown men cursing.

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There's a difference between being offended and not liking to listen to something.

I don't listen to Taylor Swift. That doesn't mean her music offends me.

Maybe if her lyrics were more vulgar, I'd listen

Edit to add: I'm not saying I don't listen to S2H because I don't like it. I like Jake and Ryan and a lot of the info. But if it's a topic I'm 50/50 on, the profanity might push me the other way. It's typically when they are wandering off-topic that they use more filler words, so maybe the aversion to excessive cussing is just a compounding issue.

I think anyone that swears a lot, myself included, can turn it on/off without much effort, if any. So a guy has to assume pumping it in is a choice, and I'm just throwing my opinion out there that it might cost them listens/views, if they care.

 

[Firth]

This has been an interesting read. I'm in the group that listens less because of the profanity. I just don't like to be around it, so I avoid it when I have the option. I've spent time on drilling rigs where guys used f bombs as nouns, verbs, adjectives, interjections, adverbs, pronouns, conjunctions and prepositions. It was fine, not a big deal, I'd just rather not if I have a choice. I'd chalk it up to how I was raised and at this point is pretty deeply engrained and not going to change. Anway not being in the habit of cursing appears to be preferable from a professional standpoint; although, it doesn't matter as much as it used to. I've never asked someone to change to suit my preferences.

I'm bilingual, and it was interesting learning the second language. American curse words have a certain ugliness to me. The curse words in the second language were just words, no extra meaning.

 

[grfox92]

I would definitely listen to any of the topics that interested me if there wasn’t profanity.

There is value in a lot of the episodes, but currently, with the language used, I choose to pass up that content, even though the content would be valuable to me.

I guess thats the part I dont understand. Discounting something of value because of words. Its hard for me to wrap my head around that idea.

Im by no means trying to say your opinion is right or wrong. When I worte my original post in here I genuinely meant it, I just dont understand it. I completely respect your opinion and maybe its a cultural thing where I was born and raised, profanity was a form of expression and emphasis.

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