The response Jake and Ryan asked for concerning "why not use vulgarity?"

[Schmo]

I guess thats the part I dont understand. Discounting something of value because of words. Its hard for me to wrap my head around that idea.

Im by no means trying to say your opinion is right or wrong. When I worte my original post in here I genuinely meant it, I just dont understand it. I completely respect your opinion and maybe its a cultural thing where I was born and raised, profanity was a form of expression and emphasis.

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It’s because of my personal values. I don’t use those words, ever. So why would I needlessly fill my mind with them?

 

[wind gypsy]

 

[whoop]

the language doesn't bother me and i like the podcast.
what sticks in my craw is that the host tossed a rifle during a shoot2hunt class. not sure how exactly it went down, but they laugh about it on the podcast with form.

 

[grfox92]

the language doesn't bother me and i like the podcast.
what sticks in my craw is that the host tossed a rifle during a shoot2hunt class. not sure how exactly it went down, but they laugh about it on the podcast with form.

What do you mean he tossed a rifle? Like threw it? Jake or Ryan?

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[whoop]

What do you mean he tossed a rifle? Like threw it? Jake or Ryan?

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pretty sure it was Ryan. something about a rifle flying 4ft in the air. nothing to worry about though, the poi didnt shift.

 

[grfox92]

pretty sure it was Ryan. something about a rifle flying 4ft in the air. nothing to worry about though, the poi didnt shift.

Must have been a SWFA.

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[Turkeytider]

I played professional baseball and have heard it all so I'm not easily offended by anything, especially foul language. These habitual "cussors" though, haven’t grasped the fact that the internet is forever and their digital footprint is basically a neon sign saying “Don’t hire me.” They treat social media like a private conversation in a bar at 2 AM, forgetting that everyone from their grandmother to their potential boss can see it. They still get that little thrill of rebellion every time they drop an f-bomb, like teenagers who just learned these words exist. Watch how they snicker at their own profanity or look around for reactions after particularly colorful phrases. They never outgrew that phase where shocking adults felt like a personality trait.

AKA immaturity?

 

[roadrunner]

During my career in oil and gas, and particularly on drilling rigs, I found it funny at how long it took field hands to say something with all the $&*@'s and #*%!))$**'s strung into sentences, and then they'd get frustrated because you couldn't follow what they were saying...

 

[nagibson1]

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[SDHNTR]

So would you listen if there wasn't profanity? Would you find value in the podcast if they didn't curse all the time?

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In about 10% of it, yes. IMO, this podcast especially, but really all of them, need to cut the nonsense. Stick to the subject matter at hand, not go off on endless tangents, keep it to 20-30 minutes and be concise about it. It’s not the venue to rib your buddy about the bad shot he made or the fat chick he brought home from the bar. Keep it relevant!

The secret to a good podcast is one with a good intro into the subject matter, and a good conclusion. The closer the two together, the better!

Absolutely no one wants to listen to 2hrs worth of meaningless banter (especially bro talk) to get 20 minutes worth of valuable information.

 

[SDHNTR]

AKA immaturity?

Bingo!

And we’ve all been there. I certainly was in my 20’s. But I’ve since raised a family and have become far more aware of what’s really important in life. Which brings me back to a question I had earlier that no one answered…

Are these guys family men? It would explain a lot.

 

[woods89]

If you don't like it, turn it off.

And, apparently, quite a few of us have.

They should be thankful, we're doing market research for them for free here........

 

[pacoalcracker]

The fact that they have to ask, "Why not use vulgarity?" says it all right there. They KNOW it's wrong and are hoping enough people justify it.....most people won't, period.

 

[DAOutfitters208]

The fact that they have to ask, "Why not use vulgarity?" says it all right there. They KNOW it's wrong and are hoping enough people justify it.....most people won't, period.

Who the **** says its wrong?

 

[pacoalcracker]

DAO.....Who? Just read the 10 pages of opinions right here...85% have voted it's WRONG. I think that's the majority and this poll is pretty much how the general population thinks as well. Maybe your momma should have soaped up your mouth as a kid.

Those two knuckleheads won't clean up their act, because they can't. The vulgar talk is already ingrained into their way of life. Over time, the podcast will fail as listeners get tired of it, regardless of how much good content there is. Many right here have already stopped listening to it.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

For contrast, I use the Hornady podcast as background noise when I nap in the afternoon. While there is good content presented in that show, the monotonous presentation style is the perfect catalyst for sleep. I have done this for long enough now, that there is a Pavlovian response built into my circadian rhythm.

Time for nap, put on the Hornady podcast, instantly asleep.

Conversely, I listen to S2H when I am driving to stay awake and be entertained… provided I don’t have my kids in the car. As I mentioned in a previous post, Ryan and Jake are the same culturally as my friends/hunting buddies, so driving around listening to them is an analog to sitting around with my buddies talking guns and hunting in addition to the random organic banter that inevitably comes from such conversations.

Cussing, how and if one uses or doesn’t use it, and how those words are perceived and interpreted, are 100% a cultural manifestation.

Those that find South Park funny, have no problem with Jake and Ryan. Those that find South Park immature, offensive or simply unfunny, won’t like listening to Jake and Ryan.

I am of the former, and still consider Team America my favorite comedy of all time.

So in a nutshell, different strokes for different folks. Different cultures, different social norms. Don’t like it, don’t listen.

Finally, I would strongly caution against anyone projecting their own biases and assumptions onto others; especially when articulated through an inflated sense of self-righteousness, simply because they personally don’t use certain words. Saying someone “lacks intelligence or a sufficient vocabulary” because they cuss, are asinine statements in and of themselves. We are having this conversation on Ryan’s forum and purchase many items from UM; to be successful entrepreneurs requires at least a baseline of intelligence above average, so let’s all be a little more respectful in that regard and drop the insinuated insults.

 

[JGRaider]

No it doesn't. My wife's uncle started and sold his business 40 years later for a small fortune. He's living proof foul mounted idiots (not saying those guys are idiots either) can squander into money in spite of their personality. It's sad when you see what's happening in the USA nowadays. Wrong is accepted as right, right becomes questionable. Sad deal in my book.

 

[LongWayAround]

I have a bigger issue with nose septum piercings and cotton candy haired unknown genders than I do with profanity.

Pretty sure one of those types is a bigger threat to our culture

 

[Chris in TN]

Western civilization has historically championed and encouraged maturity among men. Men should be warrior poets, not orcs. You can be athletic and a great salesman or elk hunter or have a successful business or podcast and a thousand other things, and not be a mature man. But what you cannot do, is ask mature men to see you as a fellow man, when you are not. It's easy to be a big strong old boy. Being a man requires some discipline over yourself and over your desire to stay a boy.

If a man-eating lion got loose in America, he'd starve to death.

1 Corinthians 13:11. Some of y'all need to put away childish things.

 

[LongWayAround]

Warrior poet