The response Jake and Ryan asked for concerning "why not use vulgarity?"

[Steve O]

So are they stating that if you use the 6.5 Creedmoor that makes you gay?
Have they made that insinuation in a podcast?

I was joking. Same as they are. There are entire social media “brands” built on disparaging the 6..5CM. The podcast is locker room talk not hate speech.

 

[Macintosh]

there is vulgarity of the type that leaves you breathless, vaguely violated but with a wistful smile, and wondering what just happed…this is akin to art and is practiced by too few. But when you run across it, its to be treasured as much as any prose.
There is also vulgarity that seems a little like the high-school-aged line cook at the diner that habitually over-salts the eggs. It’s merely uninspiring, and leaves you dry-mouthed, wondering what else is on the menu.
Like anything, tending to either extreme is the lamest of easy-buttons; it is only in finding balance that adds emphasis and zest, that feeling of unexpected rapture when something seemingly banal grabs your attention and captivates it for a moment, that men can be truly separated from boys.

To me, asking jake and ryan to stop swearing would be like asking the tides to stop rising and falling. Its clearly something they do. Unfortunately it doesnt appear to me they put much thought or effort into it, and so it comes off as an unpracticed sort of crassness that really shouts of a lack of preparation. I would simply challenge them, that if they want to be taken as practitioners of a craft, to be more artful, more creative and more quality-minded in their vulgarity so it reflects the same sort of attention to detail they aspire to bring to the other facets of their business.

 

[pacoalcracker]

The real truth of the matter is....is that cursing is so ingrained in their brain and so habitual, they can't stop swearing. No more than a meth head can stop drugging without serious intervention and even that often does not work.

Perhaps this chain of posts is that intervention...let's see if it works.

 

[Turkeytider]

there is vulgarity of the type that leaves you breathless, vaguely violated but with a wistful smile, and wondering what just happed…this is akin to art and is practiced by too few. But when you run across it, its to be treasured as much as any prose.
There is also vulgarity that seems a little like the high-school aged line cook at the diner that habitually over-salts the eggs. It’s merely uninspiring, and leaves you dry-mouthed, wondering what else is on the menu.
Like anything, tending to either extreme is the lamest of easy-buttons; it is only in finding balance that adds emphasis and zest, that feeling of unexpected rapture when something seemingly banal grabs your attention and captivates it for a moment, that men can be truly separated from boys.

To me, asking jake and ryan to stop swearing would be like asking the tides to stop rising and falling. Its clearly something they do. Unfortunately it doesnt appear to me they put much thought or effort into it, and so it comes off as an unpracticed sort of crassness that really shouts of a lack of preparation. I would simply challenge them, that if they want to be taken as practitioners of a craft, to be more artful, more creative and more quality-minded in their vulgarity so it reflects the same sort of attention to detail they aspire to bring to the other facets of their business.

I have to say that your very last sentence was one of the more eloquent expressions of an opinion/position on an issue that I’ve seen in a good while!

 

[Turkeytider]

The real truth of the matter is....is that cursing is so ingrained in their brain and so habitual, they can't stop swearing. No more than a meth head can stop drugging without serious intervention and even that often does not work.

Perhaps this chain of posts is that intervention...let's see if it works.

You may be right, but I’m not convinced that it’s not more deliberate. This thread, at 12 pages, has apparently peaked more interest than I would have thought it would generate. That in and of itself is interesting, at least to me.

 

[akcabin]

Like most things in life. Depends on the situation. I guess there's the sock jockey that makes there discussion with folks. Not my bag so I've no clue who they are.
If I was around a campfire with most of the folks here, probably depend on kids around. No kids, and throw in some booze. Open game
My beautiful wife asks. Would you talk like that in front of your grandma ? And yeppers I've heard my mama spurt out some stuff that I probably wouldn't say when she got mad, oofda

 

[grfox92]

there is vulgarity of the type that leaves you breathless, vaguely violated but with a wistful smile, and wondering what just happed…this is akin to art and is practiced by too few. But when you run across it, its to be treasured as much as any prose.
There is also vulgarity that seems a little like the high-school-aged line cook at the diner that habitually over-salts the eggs. It’s merely uninspiring, and leaves you dry-mouthed, wondering what else is on the menu.
Like anything, tending to either extreme is the lamest of easy-buttons; it is only in finding balance that adds emphasis and zest, that feeling of unexpected rapture when something seemingly banal grabs your attention and captivates it for a moment, that men can be truly separated from boys.

To me, asking jake and ryan to stop swearing would be like asking the tides to stop rising and falling. Its clearly something they do. Unfortunately it doesnt appear to me they put much thought or effort into it, and so it comes off as an unpracticed sort of crassness that really shouts of a lack of preparation. I would simply challenge them, that if they want to be taken as practitioners of a craft, to be more artful, more creative and more quality-minded in their vulgarity so it reflects the same sort of attention to detail they aspire to bring to the other facets of their business.

I listen to the podcast because its raw, unfiltered and unpepared. Its essentially a talk show who's focused around hunting and shooting, if it was scripted and laid out like a documentary I wouldn't listen to it. I enjoy the personality of Jake and Ryan, they sound exactly like two guys I would want to hang out with. That's what makes the podcast entertaining.



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[grfox92]

Clearly there are people on this thread who wouldn't want to hang out with Ryan and Jake because they use curse words in their banter. If those people dont like the cursing than dont listen.

To ask two guys who are being themselves to change who they are to appease a bunch of guys who's skin crawl at the sound of an F Bomb is an insane request.

When I'm at work with a bunch of grown men, or out hunting there is a lot of cursing and shit talking going on.

When I am in a meeting at the bank, or at a church event, or with a family and their children, I'm not using that language.

Some of you in this thread have insinuated that using curse words "waters down your sole" or indicated that you are "uneducated" I'm going just flat out say that you guys are living an extremely sheltered life if you actually believe that. If you dont swear good for you. But to insinuate that some one who does is of a lower moral standard makes you shallow and closed minded.

This is a podcast. You have to go seek it out and press play, it isn't being broadcast out to the general public. These guys are being genuine and thats how they talk. So some of you rather listen to two guys who aren't being genuine and thats some how better? Or you want to change how people think and talk and convince them that cursing is somehow hurting people? Sounds pretty left wing, trying to control how people speak.

For the record, this message isnt targeted at the OP.


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[Macintosh]

I listen to the podcast because its raw, unfiltered and unpepared. Its essentially a talk show who's focused around hunting and shooting, if it was scripted and laid out like a documentary I wouldn't listen to it. I enjoy the personality of Jake and Ryan, they sound exactly like two guys I would want to hang out with. That's what makes the podcast entertaining.



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You have a reading comprehension problem. I said to swear better, I did not say to script anything or stop swearing. And I think you may have taken my post a LOT more seriously than is appropriate. Some people dont have much of a sense of sarcasm. But I appreciate your taking this seriously. Serially.

 

[grfox92]

You have a reading comprehension problem. I said to swear better, I did not say to script anything or stop swearing. And I think you may have taken my post a LOT more seriously than is appropriate. Some people dont have much of a sense of sarcasm. But I appreciate your taking this seriously. Serially.

You are correct. Just re read your post and I totally got the sarcasm. My bad homey .

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[tony]

One or both those potty mouths own rokslide right?

I drove up to my moms yesterday morning, and listened to these ear offenders.

I'm not hearing it. Yeah a few F words here and there. Maybe I picked the wrong episode? I worked in the Fire/EMS field and now a prison and hospital emergency dept. Heard, and hear way, way worse talk than these two are reported to speak.
Some of you tender ears better never be around a group of single or divorced white women!

E gads!!

 

[Turkeytider]

I think it’s safe to say, leaving out any sort of judgement as well, that people didn’t use to talk in normal conversations the way they do now. Wonder why that is? Then again, now that I think about it, people simply don’t interact in general with others as they used to. I suppose that’s thanks to social media. People don’t even break up anymore in person. Don’t look in another person’s eyes and get a full appreciation of the hurt you might be causing someone. How many generations are we working on now that will never receive a hand written love letter? Just one old Boomer’s opinion, but I think we’re a bit the lesser for it.
I was at lunch a while back and noticed a couple come in and sit down at a table not far from me. Couldn’t help but notice how attractive the young lady was. I proceeded to watch them pull out their phones and start banging away. They MIGHT have said 10 words to each other the entire lunch. I wanted to go over and grab the guy by the shoulders, and point him at the young lady and say, “ Look! Here’s a beautiful woman sitting right in front of you and you won’t even talk to her!? What’s the matter with you, boy!?”
Rant over! Just an old fart approaching 80. I know I’m out of date!

 

[lyle_destroys]

To each his own, but are there not more pressing issues to dwell on?

 

[mt terry d]

So are they stating that if you use the 6.5 Creedmoor that makes you gay?
Have they made that insinuation in a podcast?

I thought it was just common knowledge.

 

[Steve O]

I find it ironic and humorous that we are almost at 13 pages…this will equal the thesis that started this whole thread off.

 

[BLJ]

I was joking. Same as they are. There are entire social media “brands” built on disparaging the 6..5CM. The podcast is locker room talk not hate speech.

I thought it was just common knowledge.

Thanks for the explanation.
Seems like it all makes sense.

 

[mt terry d]

Thanks for the explanation.
Seems like it all makes sense.

I goofed up, sorry.

Thought I was quoting this:
So are they stating that if you use the 6.5 Creedmoor that makes you gay?
Have they made that insinuation in a podcast?

 

[BLJ]

That was what you quoted.
Maybe I missed something.
I thought your post was an answer to my question.

 

[mt terry d]

Maybe I missed something.

This:

I goofed up, sorry.

Thought I was quoting this:
So are they stating that if you use the 6.5 Creedmoor that makes you gay?
Have they made that insinuation in a podcast?

 

[Gen273]

While my opinion may not be popular, here it is. Our culture's constant use of profanity reflects many things, including a lack of respect for one's self and others. It also shows the general lack of intellectual capacity in our world. Don't take my word for it; just read the posts above with individuals acting like reading or writing 13 pages is akin to climbing Mount Everest.

If one can not communicate without using vulgarity every other word, they seriously need to expand their vocabulary and sharpen their communication skills. There are better ways to express oneself.