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The actual words used by Ted Cruz indicate that he would like to “return full CONTROL of Nevada’s lands to its citizens.” There was no mention of selling or giving away land and I’m not sure how state management of these lands would be a bad thing. 85% of Nevada is owned by the federal government, most of which is managed by the BLM. And the swaths of private land are littered with a checkerboard of BLM parcels. It is easy to see why there is a lot of conflict.

http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/b...06.File.dat/nv_reference_blm_cnty_11x17_2.pdf

Any mass selloff of public lands would require action by congress. As hunters we need to be careful about falling for left wing talking points and propaganda. A lot of our liberty is at stake in this election.

Ok he said Transfer all Federal land to States, how about you transfer your paycheck to my bank acct if it isn't that significant of a move :)

Oh and there is a bill already out there that would give the states the right to sell off public lands once transferred to them from the feds. So don't think for a second it'll be in Federal control or stay public if this happens.
 
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The actual words used by Ted Cruz indicate that he would like to “return full CONTROL of Nevada’s lands to its citizens.” There was no mention of selling or giving away land and I’m not sure how state management of these lands would be a bad thing. 85% of Nevada is owned by the federal government, most of which is managed by the BLM. And the swaths of private land are littered with a checkerboard of BLM parcels. It is easy to see why there is a lot of conflict.

http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/b...06.File.dat/nv_reference_blm_cnty_11x17_2.pdf

Any mass selloff of public lands would require action by congress. As hunters we need to be careful about falling for left wing talking points and propaganda. A lot of our liberty is at stake in this election.
Nevada has sold off over 99% of the land granted at statehood (2+ Million to about 3000 acres now). Full control of fed land given to the state of Nevada will more than likely mean it will be sold based on my first fact.
 

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I liked Ted Cruz's rhetoric and stance as a Texas state Senator, but I have to admit, I am no longer a fan, not just on this issue but many others that have been raised during the debates.

I am a fan of Trump simply because he isn't a politician and as a person financing his own campaign isn't beholden to lobbyists or super pacs. He does make me a bit nervous but its better than the current pc culture that is destroying our way of life and certainly leagues above Hitlery and Socialists sanders.
 

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Do we really need to make a list of past Presidents public sex lives? I'm not sure that is an indicator of how good a president can be. Lots of people loved JFK and Bill. I'm from Arkansas, and if even half the stories from his days of governor were made public, people would cringe that he was our President.

I don't want to derail this from the discussion about public lands, but you don't see my point. I don't care what a guy does in private...I do care about how elected official conduct themselves in public. I know that everyone has sex and goes to the bathroom--but not everyone goes on national television to talk about it (and for the purposes of humiliating others).
 
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Now go to a Muslim country and tell me how many think any American of any other faith is a good person?
I've never been to a majority Muslim country and I'll assume you haven't either. Until I do so, I don't feel like I can make blanket statements about it. There are some evil pricks all over the world. They are part of all different faiths, races, etc. Call me an optimist but I think most people want to feel safe, want the best for their families and want to be happy.
 
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I've never been to a majority Muslim country and I'll assume you haven't either. Until I do so, I don't feel like I can make blanket statements about it. There are some evil pricks all over the world. They are part of all different faiths, races, etc. Call me an optimist but I think most people want to feel safe, want the best for their families and want to be happy.

I have a few friends from Jordan and India but no your right I haven't been to a place such as Iraq, Libya, Syria etc. But when was the last time a dictator here was killing its citizens? How many journalists have been beheaded here by Americans? How many religious artifacts destroyed here based on hate? To tell me not to protect ones self would be like telling a black buddy he is welcome at a KKK meeting. Doesn't take much to see the hate for western civilization.

All you have to do is watch the news world wide, how about all the girls kidnapped by Boka Haram or however you spell it in Africa, last I heard none have been returned or found. I guess give me another example of a race or religion that today, not historically, but today has created such evil world wide?
 
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Damn this got deep...
Some states can handle land management others cant. Those that can't is because voters can't trust the vote of those in office.

Not an EPA or BLM fan, but I'd take BLM over EPA if I had to save one.
 
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I have a few friends from Jordan and India but no your right I haven't been to a place such as Iraq, Libya, Syria etc. But when was the last time a dictator here was killing its citizens? How many journalists have been beheaded here by Americans? How many religious artifacts destroyed here based on hate? To tell me not to protect ones self would be like telling a black buddy he is welcome at a KKK meeting. Doesn't take much to see the hate for western civilization.

All you have to do is watch the news world wide, how about all the girls kidnapped by Boka Haram or however you spell it in Africa, last I heard none have been returned or found. I guess give me another example of a race or religion that today, not historically, but today has created such evil world wide?
ISIS are all Muslims but not all Muslims are ISIS. They are for sure some evil pricks but not sure I can say that any Muslim in America should be treated as a future terrorist. And ignoring any evil caused by any religion historically and just looking at today is silly. I don't label all Catholics as child molesters just because some of their priests are evil bastards.
 

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I support missionaries in Morocco and can promise you being a Christian is very hush hush. They eventually had to get out of dodge.
 
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ISIS are all Muslims but not all Muslims are ISIS. They are for sure some evil pricks but not sure I can say that any Muslim in America should be treated as a future terrorist. And ignoring any evil caused by any religion historically and just looking at today is silly. I don't label all Catholics as child molesters just because some of their priests are evil bastards.

I just don't see why there is an issue with a temporary ban, till we can actually put a system in place that somewhat works to keep the bad out and let the good in. I see no reason the good Muslims are more important then American lives, I'm talking about non citizens. Muslims that are not US citizens, as all US citizens should have the protection of the constitution. I do think if any religion is preaching hate and a member commits a hate crime then at the very least the mosque, church, synagogue etc should also be investigated. Such as the mosque where the two brothers went that bombed the Boston marathon, know hate being preached. And if found to be preaching hate should be implicated in a hate crime.

Now I don't know of any other religion that would be against this.
 
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Temporary ban to vet them is necessary. They aren't just coming here guns blazing ALL THE TIME. They will infiltrate our infrastructure. They will have small businesses and be involved in community. Then 15 to 20 years later, it could be chaos if they are allowed to strengthen their organization domestically.
 
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I just don't see why there is an issue with a temporary ban, till we can actually put a system in place that somewhat works to keep the bad out and let the good in. I see no reason the good Muslims are more important then American lives.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Back to the OT, I think we both agree that transfer of federal lands probably won't work out well for the public land hunter. A vote for Cruz is a vote for federal land transfer unless he changes his position. Not holding my breath.
 
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That won't last long, we're well on our way to becoming just like every other country in the world. So they can start hating someone else soon. And I have been to those Muslim countries.

Hopefully we can reverse our course.
 
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Back to the OT, I think we both agree that transfer of federal lands probably won't work out well for the public land hunter. A vote for Cruz is a vote for federal land transfer unless he changes his position. Not holding my breath.

That's the good thing about our country, we can disagree without having to kill each other :)
 

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Back to the OT, I think we both agree that transfer of federal lands probably won't work out well for the public land hunter. A vote for Cruz is a vote for federal land transfer unless he changes his position. Not holding my breath.

Carter banned Iranians from entering the country during the hostage crisis...what's the difference? It's simple common sense. The question to ask about Isis is would they even exist if we didn't go into Iraq on false pretenses and I say no. Yet they are driving around in humvees and using American made weapons given to them by the moderates that Obama armed. We are creating enemies faster than we can kill them.
 
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The question to ask about Isis is would they even exist if we didn't go into Iraq on false pretenses and I say no. Yet they are driving around in humvees and using American made weapons given to them by the moderates that Obama armed. We are creating enemies faster than we can kill them.
100% agree. Our foreign policy from both sides of the aisle has created this mess.
 

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Hopefully we can reverse our course.

There's only one way to do that, and that's by electing a conservative who then appoints another conservative Supreme Court Justice that gets appointed. And even then it's no guarantee given what we have on the rest of the court. But hopefully they will also have the chance to appoint one or two others during this next term as well.

I'm not confident that Trump would nominate the right Justice, and if anyone on the left side gets in........the Constitution and our country is absolutely doomed. Actually the country is doomed either way.......just look around at the popular beliefs, thinking, and poor ideals that have overtaken the country in the last 20 years. THAT's becoming our norm. Hard to combat that when it's like a plague running rampant.

The only thing that separates us from, and makes us different than the rest of the world.........is our Constitution and the adherence to it. Without that, we ARE the rest of the world. I just can't figure out why so many people want to be like the rest of the world. Dare to be different.
 
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