Scope adjustment lag

[madcalfe]

Is there any other legitimate activity that requires accuracy that makes excuses for missing by calling “flyers”? I’m trying to imagine a baseball pitcher; or a golfer, or a dude in a bar throwing darts with his buddies doing this. Why is it a thing in shooting?

MULLIGAN!

 

[sndmn11]

Any good threads on diagnosis flyers or point of aim shifts?

There's no such thing as flyers. Every shot counts and makes up your overall cone and should be included in your zero.

What is realistic goal for Christian arms mesa, for me, for 300 win mag?

What is expected rifle movement?

10-20 shots at a 2-3" aiming point at 100 yards all within the aiming point.

Zero movement.

 

[Zerk]

When I say flyer, I think screw up. Maybe rifle not pulled right, jerk trigger ect.

I get the point, but it is word that we know what it means.

I go between UP and WI.

Probably a coincidence, but 4 of 19 bullets were from 7 year old box. Not that bullets go bad and same part#

 

[Zerk]

There's no such thing as flyers. Every shot counts and makes up your overall cone and should be included in your zero.



10-20 shots at a 2-3" aiming point at 100 yards all within the aiming point.

Zero movement.

I've been in 2-3" whole time. But goal has been 1" on bench. Like even better.

When I say flyer, it is just a common term we use. Often you can call a screw up after you pull trigger, if you prefer that. But not all.

Zero movement is my goal for dry fires, but I am not at 100%.

I know I need to improve

 

[Brandon.miller.4]

Is there any other legitimate activity that requires accuracy that makes excuses for missing by calling “flyers”? I’m trying to imagine a baseball pitcher; or a golfer, or a dude in a bar throwing darts with his buddies doing this. Why is it a thing in shooting?

Because scopes have been junk for so long the hunting community has never questioned it.

 

[Steve300xcw]

And are you sure everything is tight on the gun? Action screws, bases rings etc. That has screwed with more than a few guys

 

[ChrisAU]

With a solid rest, a repeatable grip, and a consistent trigger pull there is no such thing as a flyer.

Work on dry-firing from a steady position and devoting yourself to a repeatable grip. I tend to apply slight force with my right hand grip back into my shoulder and position my left hand under my right arm or elbow when on a bench, usually squeezing my rear bag to get the height perfect.

Don't yank at the trigger, depress it. You should depress the trigger straight back along the lines of the rifle stock and when the rifle fires hold that press until impact. Practicing this will help keep you from "swatting" or "snapping" the trigger. Pecking it at like its a key on keyboard leads to inconsistency in pressure, in the same analogy it should be a slow press into the keyboard that generates a repeating character, lllllllllllllllllllllllllll until impact.

Probably way better advice out there but figured I'd throw some actual help out. Can be frustrating trying to learn basics when you wade into a pool of "experts."

And btw, your scope does need replacing. It could very well be the cause of your "flyers" if the erector is moving around inside of the scope. No conservative entity has done more for the ammunition industry than Leupold.

 

[Zerk]

And are you sure everything is tight on the gun? Action screws, bases rings etc. That has screwed with more than a few guys

I have checked rings but not base.

The bad shots of you prefer were about 1.5" at 100 yards. Bad scope or my screw up? I think my trigger pull is decent.

I wonder about my cheek weld and looking straight through the same every time.

Last time 6 under quarter. First 4 were bad. Was it me, clean barrel or scope? After that 6 good ones.

Today 5 good 3 bad. But I felt one jump bad, and another seemed to move a bit.

I think I am at point going to call this my load, for now I don't have Chrono yet.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Dude start at the start. Pull the scope and the rings. locktite the bases down, then the rings. Check the action screws too. Best scope in the world will still suck if it is moving around on you.

Also no offense but can you shoot other rifles accurately? What sorta groups do you get with them?

 

[sndmn11]

I've been in 2-3" whole time. But goal has been 1" on bench. Like even better.

When I say flyer, it is just a common term we use. Often you can call a screw up after you pull trigger, if you prefer that. But not all.

Zero movement is my goal for dry fires, but I am not at 100%.

I know I need to improve

If you are putting every shot of 10 within 1" of your aiming point in 10-15min then you are shooting great. 30 within 1.5" in a half hour and there is nothing to gripe about.

The singular issue then becomes the inability for the scope to adjust. It's a very easy thing to test once you accept that 10+ shot groups are needed.

 

[Zerk]

I put tq wrench on base before mounting rings.

I have not checked rest, other than rings. Need to do that.

I am not saying it is not me. My goal is 1" and I can do that. But I probably get a bad shot here and there

The 243 I was getting under 3/4. Then I put freedom to use it for practice. Problems tracking, sent in

One reason I am not chucking in trash is it could be me.

But I did watch it walk into place after making adjustments, straight line.

 

[Ucsdryder]

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Poor bastard…

 

[Bubblehide]

Poor bastard…

The old saying is, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.

 

[Zerk]

All my scopes are Leupold. I don't adjust and until was very happy. I did question tracking. I would do it half amount at time and work my way to zero.

Only other scope I got is Nikon that was replaced with freedom. Shot good, bad light. Sat for 6 years and started shooting couple feet away. So I bought the freedom.

Ill check screws.

 

[Zerk]

I mailed freedom out on Wednesday, today is Tuesday and it is shipped or at least created shipping number.

No info in email.

Just saw thread ups might strike.

 

[JohnJohnson]

There's a lot of guys shooting 300WMs with flinches who don't even know they have one. Probably the vast majority of them to be honest. How much dryfire do you do and have you thought that it could be a possibility?

 

[Zerk]

I am not ruling me out. Not every time but I do close eyes sometimes. I dry fire 3 times at least before every shot. These last two sessions really got better, which is why I adjusted it.

I was surprised lack of recoil with break and rubber pad. My 30-06s no pad kicks more. Shooting this in a Tshirt.

Plan on lots of trigger time with 243.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I am not ruling me out. Not every time but I do close eyes sometimes.

Close eyes during the shot or after it?

 

[Zerk]

After I hope.

 

[Ucsdryder]

The old saying is, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.

Oh. Lol. I thought it was the sacrificial, soon to be dead, horse about to be beat again!