Project 2025 and public lands and environment

[Coldtrail]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you wouldn't be psyched to see Bill Gates, Mark Cuban, or George Soros do this. But as you said it's a good thing billionaires famously don't care about making more money. Which is definitely a character trait billionaires have.

Add to that a billionaire who was not elected by the people, and is not an employee of the govt so has zero accountability for decisions made.

Regardless of anyone's political leanings I think it's safe to admit this process sets a bad precedent, the "special govt employee" that under one president can cut money and positions with no checks and balances can also four years later put them right back and create new ones and answer to nobody but the commander and chief......just because he may have been picked by your guy it's okay to question some of this.

 

[Poser]

We got in this mess because of Congress spending and fraud and kickbacks, there's a reason they're poor when they get elected and rich after a while. We need a billionaire who doesn't need the money to fix that level of corruption because Congress isn't going to cut off their income. This is a nonpartisan problem, they're all abusinf the system to a certain degree. There's absolutely zero good reason to oppose DOGE audits. You guys are opposing DOGE because your team told you it's bad, your team told you it's bad because they're getting exposed with fraudulent and wasteful spending. The Left's only play here is to attempt to discredit Elon and claim it's not legal and Congress has to fix it, they can't have Elon fixing things because they'll probably end up getting primaried or end up brought up on fraud charges for the worst ones. There's no *good* reason to oppose DOGE audits.

They only fired a fleet of highly specialized employees who manage the contractors who service our nuclear arsenal. Then, after realizing their mistake, apparently can't figure out how to get in touch with the critical employees they fired to rehire them.

And, perhaps we should discuss the VA firings, looming reduced services to vets and potential cuts to veteran benefits. Or is that too much for your Trump Lapdog Syndrome to handle?

 

[PLhunter]

“Elon Musk, after accumulating much power and 370 billion dollars has joined the long list of powerful rich men before him who have said, “enough, thank you.””

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Y'all rather just keep spending trillions on sesame Street in Iraq so Trump doesn't look good for successfuly cutting spending.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

They only fired a fleet of highly specialized employees who manage the contractors who service our nuclear arsenal. Then, after realizing their mistake, apparently can't figure out how to get in touch with the critical employees they fired to rehire them.

And, perhaps we should discuss the VA firings, looming reduced services to vets and potential cuts to veteran benefits. Or is that too much for your Trump Lapdog Syndrome to handle?

Just because they're skilled doesn't mean they're needed. That's the definition of overspending. You get your news from Politico? Trump loves vets ain't nothing getting cut there just more fearmongering.

 

[Poser]

Just because they're skilled doesn't mean they're needed. That's the definition of overspending. You get your news from Politico? Trump loves vets ain't nothing getting cut there just more fearmongering.

Apparently they do need them to maintain the nuclear arsenal. They are desperately attempting to rehire them.
And more than 1000 at the VA were fired on Friday.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Apparently they do need them. They are desperately attempting to rehire them.

Good, they'll get a fat bonus for resigning then. What's the problem exactly?

 

[Poser]

Good, they'll get a fat bonus for resigning then. What's the problem exactly?

So, more government spending then and this time you are celebrating it. Celebrating a mistake. Celebrating spending more money. A couple of posts above you were admonishing excessive spending.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Not much efficiency on display here…

 

[Gila]

Good, they'll get a fat bonus for resigning then. What's the problem exactly?

When you see a big mushroom cloud to the West you will know what the problem was. Then hope the wind is from the East.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

So, more government spending then and this time you are celebrating it. Celebrating a mistake. Celebrating spending more money. A couple of posts above you were admonishing excessive spending.

So your answer is to keep spending trillions to avoid paying a few bonuses over a mistake? Come on man this is a ridiculous stance you've dug yourself into. Assuming there's actually some mistake and it happened the way Politico said it did then yeah they messed up, but it's a drop in the bucket for the cuts that are very necessarily being made.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

When you see a big mushroom cloud to the West you will know what the problem was. Then hope the wind is from the East.

So you think somebody getting laid off is gonna build a bomb and blast it off? Yeah that's not overly dramatic or anything. Maybe a person like that needs to be fired with cause.

 

[PLhunter]

Apparently they do need them to maintain the nuclear arsenal. They are desperately attempting to rehire them.
And more than 1000 at the VA were fired on Friday.

The whole selling point of all this was that Musk was going to use his super intelligence to come in and identify waste and make everything more efficient. There has been no intelligent design to any of this. It’s like getting brain surgery from a butcher who lied on the resume.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

The whole selling point of all this was that Musk was going to use his super intelligence to come in and identify waste and make everything more efficient. There has been no intelligent design to any of this. It’s like getting brain surgery from a butcher who lied on the resume.

Incorrect and/or lies. His teams have identified a ton of garbage. You just happen to not like a few aspects of it.

 

[Loo.wii]

UNCLE !!!!!! The red team is right and can never be wrong. Daddy said so. These people will only see when they have to effectively pay a subscription to access what used to be public land.

 

[JohnJohnson]

My point which you intentionally skipped over is that we clearly can't trust people who're abusing the system for their own profit to fix the system.

I'm going to engage with this point in good faith then. He has been abusing the system for his own profit this whole time. He's an immigrant from South Africa who came here on a J-1 student visa and then committed immigration fraud by not even trying to attend the college he was supposed to. And then committed it again by working on a J-1 visa as well.

Amid all of these funding freezes, know who just scored a $400 million government contract for armored cars? Tesla.

He gutted the CFPB because they regulate "big tech" companies who want to become banking platforms without FDIC regulation. Companies like Facebook have tried this and been shot down by the CFPB because they want to use other peoples' money to speculate on crypto assets. He did this because he wants to turn "X" into a banking platform and has said so publicly numerous times. Same reason why he prioritized getting access to the Treasury data on the banking information of every American, it gives him valuable info on his competitors for when he turns X into a banking platform.

Side note: The CFPB was actively cracking down on banks who were trying to de-bank conservatives for the last few years despite what Adreeson/Zuckerberg said. Adreeson doesn't like the CFPB because they have investigations open into him and same with Zuckerberg for illegally selling the metadata of children from Facebook.

Now he's currently going through NASA trying his best to gut that. Obviously SpaceX is a private space travel company and he would like to see the government rely exclusively on his company.

If he cared about controlling waste/fraud/abuse, he'd have started with the military. For obvious reasons that isn't going to happen. Unless you believe Trump's words about reducing defense spending by 50% while also saying he wants to increase defense spending.

Disclaimer: I did not vote for Kamala and think she is horrible. I also like a couple of things Trump has done such as his policy on Ukraine.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

UNCLE !!!!!! The red team is right and can never be wrong. Daddy said so. These people will only see when they have to effectively pay a subscription to access what used to be public land.

Where do y'all come up with this alarmist gaslighting dramatic sky is falling crap?

I'm going to engage with this point in good faith then. He has been abusing the system for his own profit this whole time. He's an immigrant from South Africa who came here on a J-1 student visa and then committed immigration fraud by not even trying to attend the college he was supposed to. And then committed it again by working on a J-1 visa as well.

Amid all of these funding freezes, know who just scored a $400 million government contract for armored cars? Tesla.

He gutted the CFPB because they regulate "big tech" companies who want to become banking platforms without FDIC regulation. Companies like Facebook have tried this and been shot down by the CFPB because they want to use other peoples' money to speculate on crypto assets. He did this because he wants to turn "X" into a banking platform and has said so publicly numerous times. Same reason why he prioritized getting access to the Treasury data on the banking information of every American, it gives him valuable info on his competitors for when he turns X into a banking platform.

Side note: The CFPB was actively cracking down on banks who were trying to de-bank conservatives for the last few years despite what Adreeson/Zuckerberg said. Adreeson doesn't like the CFPB because they have investigations open into him and same with Zuckerberg for illegally selling the metadata of children from Facebook.

Now he's currently going through NASA trying his best to gut that. Obviously SpaceX is a private space travel company and he would like to see the government rely exclusively on his company.

If he cared about controlling waste/fraud/abuse, he'd have started with the military. For obvious reasons that isn't going to happen. Unless you believe Trump's words about reducing defense spending by 50% while also saying he wants to increase defense spending.

Disclaimer: I did not vote for Kamala and think she is horrible. I also like a couple of things Trump has done such as his policy on Ukraine.

The only reason any of this is coming to light is because that's all the Dems have that they can complain about. Rather than the substance they just attack the man trying to gain exactly what they've got here, changing the focus from cutting corrupt irresponsible spending by trying to create distrust for the one they blame for taking their cash cow away. I'm sure Elon has taken advantage of the system just like they all have including Trump too. That doesn't mean the work he's doing is bad.

 

[TaperPin]

Just because they're skilled doesn't mean they're needed. That's the definition of overspending. You get your news from Politico? Trump loves vets ain't nothing getting cut there just more fearmongering.

You love to talk about Politico, but you realize those payments were for subscriptions for both dems and republicans? You want to cry about scandal, but those subscriptions weren’t challenged by anyone last Trump term. Not a peep. Even first quarter of 2024 the speaker of the house and Lauren Boebert had subscriptions, then suddenly they cry about how bad it is. Is so funny you guys fall for this hook line and sinker - you must know you’re getting snowed by the used car guy, but if you don’t it’s obvious to the swing voters that will take the house and senate away if the clown cars and circus don’t leave town.

Why is it so important to fight for looney toons ideas? It’s just weird.

 

[elkhunter505]

Incorrect and/or lies. His teams have identified a ton of garbage. You just happen to not like a few aspects of it.

All I really want to say is that knowing a bunch of 19-24 year olds, I’d highly doubt that they’re the best people for that job. And I highly doubt that they’re finding those things efficiently or effectively. That and they’re attempting to rehire the one guy that resigned over racist comments. The problem I have with Trump and Elon is their character because character matters to me. And approving/attempting to rehire someone who has openly made racist comments within the last year and chalking it up to a kid making a mistake just gives me even more information to believe their character is flawed. The kid in question is 24 years old. That’s no longer a kid, that’s an adult who needs to reap what he sowed but they’re trying to hire him back on and trying to justify his comments as a kid being a kid.

I am frustrated by the federal job cuts and some of the funding cuts for conservation projects but I am not opposed to cutting the funding that was laid out on a previous page (specific amounts and what not, can’t remember the posters name). I don’t like a large portion of trumps policies so far but I am not opposed to everything he is doing.

What I am frustrated with is an unelected billionaire being able to determine what is waste. If billionaires weren’t greedy or at least trying to make more money, there wouldn't be billionaires because they would get to a point and realize they don’t need more. I don’t trust any billionaire making decisions on what is waste. Especially someone who dodged military service and was illegally here in the first place dodging the requirements of his visa. I don’t trust politicians either and I think they should be paid the median salary from the nation, yet they continually vote to give themselves raises. But tell you what, I’d trust elected officials that have the ability to be removed through voting a hell of a lot more than a billionaire that cannot be removed and doesn’t need the money because he has no incentive to do the right thing. Yall want to say he has incentive to do the right thing because he doesn’t need the money, but if that was the case, he’d cut a lot of spaceX dollars because we don’t need to be going to space, we need to be spending money on our own people, environment, and planet. Or maybe he’d cut the government subsidies on SpaceX and Tesla, but he has not done that. If he truly didn’t care about the money, he would recognize those things are waste.

 

[elkhunter505]

Where do y'all come up with this alarmist gaslighting dramatic sky is falling crap?

This is aimed at everyone in this threat on both sides. Y’all must have really went to therapy or follow the news to find the gaslighting buzz word. That word has been thrown around so many times and I’m not sure I have seen a single time it has been used correctly.