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I don’t think anyone here has said they went in with one point alone and drew. There have been several of us that went in on a group app with 1.5 (2 points for one guy and 1 point for the other). The guy with two points, at least in our case, had to apply because he only bought a point last year.Those of you who went in with one point and didn’t want to draw. Why did you even apply? You could have just bought your point later this year.
Did you apply for the Elk Combo or Big Game Combo? We specifically applied for the Elk Combo.My buddy and I applied as a party both with 2PP and we did not draw. It’s wild to read this thread and hear that people with less points drew.
I’ve unfortunately never had success with Montana’s draw tag system.
Those of you who went in with one point and didn’t want to draw. Why did you even apply? You could have just bought your point later this year.
I don’t think anyone here has said they went in with one point alone and drew. There have been several of us that went in on a group app with 1.5 (2 points for one guy and 1 point for the other). The guy with two points, at least in our case, had to apply because he only bought a point last year.
Says I got my deer combo. Third year in a row with only one preference point. Better to be lucky than good!!
If you went in with 1 point the assumption is you had 0 points before this year so you could have bought the point later but sounds like actually people with 1 point didn’t actually draw anyways, their party partner was the one with one point which all makes sense.I believe that is incorrect. If you are holding a point, you have to apply or you lose that point. You can't skip the application period and then buy a point later in the year. 10:33 in this video.
If you went in with 1 point the assumption is you had 0 points before this year so you could have bought the point later
But it does have to do with how you fill out your app.
If you apply without buying a point you cannot buy the point later in the year. If you bought a point in December then you must apply this year and it would only make sense to buy another point, putting you at 2 points for this years draw.Not necessarily. I didn't apply for Montana last year so I just went ahead and bought a point in December. Because of that, I had to apply this year or I would lose my point from last year. You are correct that after that I could've bought a point in December, but it would've put me at 1 point again.
I was actually going to apply and not buy a point at the time of application, but then realized that if I buy the point and my partner buys his 1st point, we would average 1.5 for our group, and the last several years .2-1.8 has been 0% chance of drawing.
I guess this answers that PP do not matter in the released tag draw, otherwise everyone at 2 points would have been considered before your party.All members of my party drew released NR general elk tags with 1.5 average preference points. Can't wait for the Fall!
This is what I'm curious about so I'm hoping your explanation clears it up..
And either I'm missing something, or option 2 is a bit of a typo. If I'm successful in the combo license but dont draw my elk permit, I just keep my combo license and its good for a general area - why would I need to be entered into the released drawing?
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And maybe this forum represents a higher percentage of applicants, but it sure seems like a lot of people drew released tags.. If I extrapolate those numbers to represent the total amount of applicants, are there that many people that draw and release their tags each year?
If you apply without buying a point you cannot buy the point later in the year. If you bought a point in December then you must apply this year and it would only make sense to buy another point, putting you at 2 points for this years draw.
But if you pick #1 you can only get a released tag from someone who selected #1.
"it will be issued to someone who also had preference points and who A) chose those same refund options or B ) was next in line from the initial drawing based on their number of points"That doesn't make sense either tho.. someone who selected #1 wouldn't have a tag to release since they aren't trying for a permit area.